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Not looking too good with Labour backing the Tories – it was apparently a full hour before the first SNP member was called to enter the debate.

This is what it's looking like:

Tonight's ‪#‎ScotlandBill‬ debate.

- Labour voted AGAINST devolving tax credits; helping it fail.

- Labour voted AGAINST devolving abortion, the only part of the healthcare system that Scotland does not control. (It did,however, pass in spite of them)

- The ability to enforce equal pay and conditions across genders will NOT be devolved.

- Scotland will NOT get the ability to call for another independence referendum without the grace and permission of Westminster. That permission may be withheld no matter how loudly the people of Scotland demand it.

- The Sewel Convention has NOT been made statutory meaning that Westminster reserves the right to overrule Holyrood and legislate on devolved issues without permission, recourse or appeal.

- Crown Estate Hereditary Revenues will not be devolved; this is a direct contravention of the Smith Commission meaning that no matter what any Unionist claims, those recommendations will NOT be delivered in full.

- Westminster REFUSED to rule out classing SG welfare "top-ups" as income, thus making them taxable.

- But we will control our own road signs.

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Westminster is a stinking sham of democracy and if Jackie Baillie or Kezia Dugdale dare whine another word about the Scottish Government putting in place funding to off set tax credit cuts they should be driven from office

 

A disgusting, shameful night

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its not and never has been a democracy and it should be treated the same way as any dictatorship.

with utter contempt 

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It only deserves contempt, tig. Certainly treating Scotland with contempt.

Mhairi Black makes the same point, samsc, and she's asking the right questions.

A nation of equals – what a hoot.
 

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How do they sleep. The Vow fooled a lot of people. SNP MPs are second class members of parliament but nothing on the news. Nothing on Daily Politics but a lot of coverage of these upstarts daring to enter the debate on changing conditions for shops on Sundays. I'm scunnered.

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The wee ginger dug hits every nail on the head, sams.

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Monday evening’s debate on the Scotland Bill was a farce. Well I say debate. It was a debate in the same way that a drunk man in a different room with his fingers in his ears going la-la-la-la is taking what you say seriously. The Westminions were notable only for their absence, and unlike Aliestair Carmichael most of them didn’t have the excuse of being up before a judge for telling a big fat porkie. They were in the Commons bars instead, with their fingers in their ears going la-la-la-la we’re not listening to what Scotland is saying. Then when a vote was called the gentlemen and ladies of the Commons who had voted to deprive Scottish MPs from having a say on English legislation scurried out from under their rocks to vote on Scottish legislation. And they voted down every amendment put forward by the party which was returned in 56 of Scotland’s 59 constituencies just a few short months ago.

There were a few MPs from English constituencies in attendance, and they got most of the speaking time. For the first half hour of the all too short time allocated to Scotland by the Commons, we were regaled by a discourse on the importance of English devolution. Then we got the balloon brained Alberto Costa, a Scottish Tory who represents an English constituency, telling us how it was a good thing that there are no Scottish representatives on the Commons committee that’s going to strip us all of our human rights, because human rights are a reserved matter. In Alberto’s world, Scottish MPs are not allowed any influence on British matters. But as the evening unfolded we discovered that Westminster doesn’t want Scottish MPs to have any influence on Scottish matters either.'

Why Labour decided to vote with the Tories is beyond me.   They've got the majority anyway.    I've no idea what Corbyn is thinking.

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