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Home schooling may have meant that the children were more isolated and possibly a teacher may have picked up on problems, but no guarantee of that.

Seems a pretty ridiculous stance. Would he have blamed the school if they had been attending?

Well as ra SNP ur the govt, probably yes - the rules on home skoolin wurr oruiginally implemented by his party - but he's too styoopit (ur he thinks we urr) tae remember that

Yoo see him wanderin roon tescos wae his trolley goggle eyed at fklshin lights an stuff, its awunner that he disnae get knocked doon when oot himself.

Wae him and his stablemate Davy Cairns Inverclyde isnae very well catered fur wae politishuns renowned fur huvvin hauf a brain - Davy Cairhns cannae coont as he furgot aboot ra extra £3000 he claimed on his expenses and hudtae pay it back

He's also an ex-priest, who left because of spiritula matters (code fur he's gay)and couldnae obviously continue as an RC priest - dunno how they let child molesters stay on - but then again perhaps they wurnae smarmy gits.

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Well as ra SNP ur the govt, probably yes - the rules on home skoolin wurr oruiginally implemented by his party - but he's too styoopit (ur he thinks we urr) tae remember that

The home schooling had nothing to do with the tragedy.

Yoo see him wanderin roon tescos wae his trolley goggle eyed at fklshin lights an stuff, its awunner that he disnae get knocked doon when oot himself.

Godsake, Nota, your no still at the supermarket stalking. Did you get a chance to inspect his basket?

Wae him and his stablemate Davy Cairns Inverclyde isnae very well catered fur wae politishuns renowned fur huvvin hauf a brain - Davy Cairhns cannae coont as he furgot aboot ra extra £3000 he claimed on his expenses and hudtae pay it back

You ever thought of standin' yourself?

He's also an ex-priest, who left because of spiritula matters (code fur he's gay)and couldnae obviously continue as an RC priest - dunno how they let child molesters stay on - but then again perhaps they wurnae smarmy gits.

The child molesters should certainly be let go - and pay for their crimes - smarmy gits or no.

However, there are homosexual priests including at Our Lady of the Assumption and St Gregory in London's West End.

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The home schooling had nothing to do with the tragedy.

Of course it didn't butthat erse tried tae make polikil capital oot ov it

Godsake, Nota, your no still at the supermarket stalking. Did you get a chance to inspect his basket?

Nah everywan steers clear of him when he trundles along wae his trolley, wan time ah seen him, he wiz clockin people who recognised him, he looked over at us and a burst oot laffin

You ever thought of standin' yourself?

(Un) forchoonately ah huv merr self-respect that joinin and standin fur that party jist tae get elected tae a parliament. Yer average person wae an interest in politiks is to intelligent and free thinkin tae be an MP/MSP fur that party - they urnae styoopit enough tae be completely remote controlled

The child molesters should certainly be let go - and pay for their crimes - smarmy gits or no.

However, there are homosexual priests including at Our Lady of the Assumption and St Gregory in London's West End.

shock horror - shouldnae they be sacked then before goin tae ra bad fire toot sweet

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feck me, he has managed to get this thread on to his single track

Er naw - kin yoo show me werr ah huv mentioned yoor mysojinny or even yer support for a corrupt criminal organisashun and thur paedophile employees

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feck me, he has managed to get this thread on to his single track

no Sam there is a link - child molesters - cuts :o

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There's another missing word just now in politics - 'opportunity' is it not about time we heard that despite or even because of a recession. It's good that jobs are happening but it's only a plaster. What are they saying in between all the dire news of whats ahead re actual examples of how the country is going to forge ahead to build up again?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11300291

To those paying the price with their jobs; this is as near an apology as you are going to get.

"No member of the government will address the gathering this year. Prime Minister David Cameron turned down an invitation because it would have clashed with his paternity leave.

Business Secretary Vince Cable had been due to attend but his invitation was withdrawn in July..............

"Meanwhile, Mr Cameron's unions envoy, Richard Balfe, has urged the government to treat workers who lose their jobs as a result of cuts in a "humane" way, with ministers "listening and empathising"

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That's nice of him. Can one buy much food in the shops using "listening and empathising" as currency?

Only a matter of time till we see the photo opportunity of Sam Cameron shopping at Asda.

I'll give it a month.

:lol:

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Oh yes. I think you're right. And no doubt with the new baby whatsitsname in tow, (nanny having been told to keep out of sight until the photographers (who just so happen to be there at precisely the right moment) have got plenty of shots and gone away.

Yes, I think your crystal ball is probably working well. Except possibly Tesco, not Asda, Tesco being more British doncha know.

And some people will fall for it and believe "we're all in this together", no doubt. angry.gif

Edit - I *knew* there was something at the back of my mind about Tesco - the delightful and not-corrupt-at-all, dear me no, Shirley Porter. Still, Sam Cameron plus camera crew might be sneaky and show up at several supermarkets.

Edited by Hamsterbert

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The government is being urged to put funding into a new body to supports male victims of domestic abuse, despite the economic downturn.

A new charity Abused Men In Scotland has launched a campaign pressing the government to better support and highlight cases where men suffer emotional and physical abuse from their partners.

It is calling for more funding for the Men's Advice Line, which specifically focuses on domestic abuse, an advertising campaign to highlight the problem of male victims of domestic abuse and funding for an organisation similar to Women’s Aid that can provide specialist counselling and psychiatric support, advocacy and refuge.

In a petition to the Scottish Parliament on the issue, Alison Waugh and Jackie Walls, who have now set up the charity in Dunfermline, highlighted that in the Scottish Crime and Justice Survey 2008/9 a total of 15.3 per cent of men who have had at least one partner since the age of 16 reported having experienced a form of abuse. The number of women was 20.9 per cent.

They also highlighted a 176 per cent increase in the number of cases of domestic abuse against men.

http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/news/men-suffer-abuse-too-says-new-charity/

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The government is being urged to put funding into a new body to supports male victims of domestic abuse, despite the economic downturn.

A new charity Abused Men In Scotland has launched a campaign pressing the government to better support and highlight cases where men suffer emotional and physical abuse from their partners.

http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/news/men-suffer-abuse-too-says-new-charity/

small, but welcome, steps

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The government is being urged to put funding into a new body to supports male victims of domestic abuse, despite the economic downturn.

A new charity Abused Men In Scotland

Hahahahahahahahahaha, hahahahahahahaha o my god whit a laff, hahahahahahaha

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Hahahahahahahahahaha, hahahahahahahaha o my god whit a laff, hahahahahahaha

Not quite sure what you find funny about abuse Westie

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The government is being urged to put funding into a new body to supports male victims of domestic abuse, despite the economic downturn.

A new charity Abused Men In Scotland has launched a campaign pressing the government to better support and highlight cases where men suffer emotional and physical abuse from their partners.

The charity sector is about to be hit very badly by the Spending Review. This is going to lead to even more intensive competition for funds disbursed by Trusts and Foundations.

Maybe it's time we started thinking differently, and more creatively, about how to fund charities. In the case of this one, and perhaps Women's Aid, instead of jailing people found guilty of assault-- at HUGE cost to the taxpayer--we could move towards punitive fines, with a percentage donated to the charity that supports the victims.

Such fines could be levied through the tax system---or the welfare system where appropriate.

Glasgow is now seizing the assets of drug dealers and donating the proceeds to various charities and youth groups to try to nail the problem at source. That's intelligent thinking, IMHO.

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The charity sector is about to be hit very badly by the Spending Review. This is going to lead to even more intensive competition for funds disbursed by Trusts and Foundations.

Maybe it's time we started thinking differently, and more creatively, about how to fund charities. In the case of this one, and perhaps Women's Aid, instead of jailing people found guilty of assault-- at HUGE cost to the taxpayer--we could move towards punitive fines, with a percentage donated to the charity that supports the victims.

Such fines could be levied through the tax system---or the welfare system where appropriate.

Glasgow is now seizing the assets of drug dealers and donating the proceeds to various charities and youth groups to try to nail the problem at source. That's intelligent thinking, IMHO.

I think many more options will need to be explored in this economic climate and under this government ideology. In principle, I like initiatives that diectly recompense victims. I am also in favour of extending the use of community service orders as an alternative to custodial sentences for some category of offences, - didn't do Boy George any harm and a bit of fresh air might do George Michael's dope addled heid the world of good.

One thing's certain, we are all going to working a lot harder to identify sustainable funding. In health, there are real concerns that the only services that will be provided with be ones that local authorities have a legal obligation to provide and this will affect voluntary sector contracting, scross the board.

I am just at the point of tendering for all the services we have developed, against big f*ck off companies and mental health trusts - organisations who are able to cross subsidise. underwrite loss leader projects and have whole departments and consultants to write their bids. It's horrendous. laugh.gif

There was a time when we wouldn't have encroached on smaller charities by applying for community funding. Sadly, all bets are off now... and it's going to get worse. sad.gif

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One thing's certain, we are all going to working a lot harder to identify sustainable funding. In health, there are real concerns that the only services that will be provided with be ones that local authorities have a legal obligation to provide and this will affect voluntary sector contracting, scross the board.

I am just at the point of tendering for all the services we have developed, against big f*ck off companies and mental health trusts - organisations who are able to cross subsidise. underwrite loss leader projects and have whole departments and consultants to write their bids. It's horrendous. laugh.gif

There was a time when we wouldn't have encroached on smaller charities by applying for community funding. Sadly, all bets are off now... and it's going to get worse. sad.gif

Yeah, seems to me it becomes an uneven playing field when extreme cuts like this are about to be made, Harper. The big players are always gonna come out tops, no matter the value-for-money quality control question, because they have all the assets to win the bids, as you rightly say.

It rings kinda hollow to me when you see folks all over the vox pops on TV giving it' Yeah, cuts across the board, everyone should share the pain' but on the rare occasions they're quizzed a little further go' "Except not in health, not in education, not in the arts'.

Then again I see waste in many of the bigger arts companies, paid for by the taxpayer. Not being a turncoat, you understand--it's the sector I work in--- but sometimes our money is taken for granted...and wasted.

Let me offer an example; 8 chairs for a stage production at £1200 a pop. How great WERE these chairs? Were they really worth some artistic director taking a flaky if he didn't get em and suing the company for unfair dismissal? 8 x £1200 is a junior's annual salary in the arts world but seemingly an OK one-off spend when it comes to Scottish Op*ra. Oops I've given that away unwittingly. :lol:

I'm sure you have some examples of your own, Harps. Right now I'm just ANGRY.

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Don't start me, Hammy :lol:

£35k of our money recently spent on rebranding Creative Scotland with what is probably the worst logo ever conceived. Have you SEEN the ###### thing?

AND it has cost precisely 3 million quid of our money to 'transform' SAC and Scottish Screen into one new body. A body that after three years in transition hasn't yet a ###### scooby what it's mission is.

If it wasn't so ###### tragic it'd be hilarious.

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Don't start me, Hammy :lol: .... A body that after three years in transition hasn't yet a ###### scooby what it's mission is.

If it wasn't so ###### tragic it'd be hilarious.

I expect the poor dears might need peace and quiet for all their expensive creative work: send them to St. Kilda till they know what they're on about and whether they are worth it. Or Gruinard ('cos I bet the anthrax isn't really ALL gone).

Sorted! Now I want lots of public money for my hard work and analysis there.

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I expect the poor dears might need peace and quiet for all their expensive creative work: send them to St. Kilda till they know what they're on about and whether they are worth it. Or Gruinard ('cos I bet the anthrax isn't really ALL gone).

Sorted! Now I want lots of public money for my hard work and analysis there.

Sounds like an 'installation' to me, Hammy.

You could get a grant for that you know. :lol:

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