Partick: Glasgow's Girnal

Ian R. Mitchell takes a look at Partick's fascinating history

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Such has been the decline of Scots as the lingua franca in Glasgow that not many people would know what a girnal was. The cosmopolitan nature of the city has produced its own argot, which is expressive and creative, but it contains relatively few Scots words. I was surprised on coming here from Aberdeen to find that people didn't know what a brander was, or a scaffie. This, with my support for the Dons, made me feel quite proud of myself. A century ago, most Glasgow folk would still have known that a girnal was a grain chest and that Partick was the area where was landed and processed most of the city's grain.

Partick's Grain Mills

Partick's western border with the city was the River Kelvin, which falls steeply to the Clyde, and which powered the early granaries along its banks. And where today survives the city's last grain mill. This is owned by Rank Hovis and produces flour for their Duke Street bakery. Timothy Pont's map of Lennox c1600 shows a cluster of mills on the lower river, including Bishop's Mill and a meal mill leased by the city of Glasgow. The incorporation of Glasgow bakers also owned two mills on the river, one called the Bunhouse Mill. Although other works, such as spinning and slit mills used the water power of the Kelvin, it was grain mills which predominated.

Photo: Flour Mill. Large scale industrial flour milling began with the opening of the Scotstoun Mills in the 1840s, though as the Kelvin provided such cheap and efficient power, these were still water-operated, and remained so till the later expansion in the nineteenth century. The Regent Flour mills were built across the Kelvin from the Scotstoun mill in the 1890s. Owned by the SCWS from 1903, this mill made the famous Lofty Peak flour. (The site is now a car park for the Kelvin Hall). This cluster of mills large and small made it logical for the Clyde Navigation Trust to establish its grain depot at Meadowside in Partick in the early 1900s, and until very recently the origin of most material for Glasgow's ubiquitous jeely peece was in the girnals of Partick.

A good place to start an exploration of the area is at the bridge over the Kelvin, built to join Partick with Glasgow in 1877, just west of the Kelvin Hall. One end of the bridge bears the Glasgow coat of arms, the other that of Partick - which appropriately has millstones and a wheatsheaf on its crest. Or at least that what many accounts say; I have never found them, so maybe its another urban myth.The previous bridge lies just to the north and is still open to pedestrians. From here a walk down Bunhouse Road, and right along Old Dumbarton Road brings you to the Wheatsheaf Buildings. Now flats this cameo was built in the 1830s on the site of the original Bishop's Mill, and has delightful wheatsheaf motifs carved on its gables. It operated as a mill till the 1960s, and was water driven till the 1950s.

Photo: The Kelvin Hall. No such new use has been found for the derelict Partick Central station further on, though the land released by demolishing part of the Scotstoun Flour mills is now occcupied by stunning modern flats. Partick is being squeezed between the West End and the Riverside, old and new middle class residential areas. A huge cleared site to the west of Partick Central awaits residential development, as a corridor to connect the riverside to the West End. This was formerly the Partick Foundry and after closure in the 60s became the site of unsightly scrap metal depots. However, back around 1600 this was the site chosen for the building of Partick Castle, a fortified house serving as the country home of George Hutcheson, co-founder of Glasgow Hutcheson's Hospital. Partick Castle was demolished in 1836.

Photo: Graveyard. Given its location (West End, University, Kelvingrove Museum etc) and facilities (subway, railway, expressway) Partick has become a classic example of the benefits, or drawbacks depending on your view, of the process of gentrification. It can't be long before the owners of the last operating grain mill realise that they can make a lot more money selling the land for housing than using it to employ millers and make flour. Gentrification promotes de-industrialisation.

Before heading along Beith Street it is worth visiting Glasgow's smallest graveyard. In amongst some modern housing on Keith Street lies the Quaker burial ground. Surrounded with metal railings, it has no gravestones, but a wooden plaque stating its function.

Society of Friends

Burial Ground

Gifted by

John Purdon 1711

Last used 11-X11-1857

The Quakers gifted the site to Partick, and a part was used for road building-in return for the site being kept in good order (which it appears to be) - and for 1s a year being donated to the Society of Friends. Does the Kooncil still pay the 5p? Apparently Purdon's wife was the first interred in the cemetery, and the family, which was a prominent one in eighteenth century Partick, is commemorated in neighbouring Purdon Street.

The Goat

This area is the heart of the old pre-industrial village of Partick, and Keith Street used to be known as The Goat. The goat in question was not four footed, but an old Scots name for a small burn, one of which ran here. At the north end of The Goat was The Heid o' the Goat, a place where acrobats, quack doctors and religious and political agitators held court. A nineteenth century Partick poet Tom Burns describes the scene,

Though its richt name's in print on a prominent spot
The ane its best kent by is the heid o the Goat
There tradesmen o every class you will find
In guid Doric language expressing their mind

The old cottage buildings here were only demolished in the 1930s, and the Heid o the Goat is now the Comet car park.

Photo: Partick firestation. Along Beith Street are renovated sandstone tenements and some fine new flats, but the most interesting building is the former Partick Fire Station, dating from 1906. This too has been converted to housing though the brick fire tower has been retained as a feature. The building itself is mostly brick built, unusual for Glasgow pre 1914. and also done in an almost Germanic style of architecture; Potsdam rather than Partick. Just beside the fire station at Meadow Road access is gained to the Clydeside cycletrack, which provides a high and traffic free vantage point for further sightseeing.

The whole skyline to the south is dominated by cranes. But not shipyard cranes as would once have been the case, but building cranes, for the riverside here is the site of a multi-million pound redevelopment, dominated by new housing. Partick was never the shipbuilding centre that Govan was, but it did have some important yards. From the cycletrack, looking back towards the Kelvin's mouth, can still be seen the derelict brick and sandstone offices of the Meadowside Shipbuilding Yard, with its central tower in a sort of French renaissance style. Hopefully this will survive redevelopment in some form. One of the early owners of this yard, David Tod, became the first Provost of Partick. The second provost was John White owner of the Scotstoun Mills, showing the tendency in the nineteenth century for local capitalists to exercise almost feudal powers in their locales, as Provosts, MPs JPs etc.

Across the Kelvin mouth lay Inglis' Pointhouse yard, which specialised in paddle steamers, building the current Waverley in 1947, and the one of the same name which it replaced, which was sunk at Dunkirk in 1940. The Maid of the Loch, currently being refurbished as an attraction at the Loch Lomond National Park, was built by Inglis' in 1952, but the yard closed ten years later, ending shipbuilding on the Kelvin.

Between Meadowside and Whiteinch to the west, the Partick riverside was dominated by granaries. Inglis yard had a famous set of sheer legs, 96 feet high that stood till 1965, but they were puny beside the 13 storey brick granary built by the Clyde Navigation Trust in 1911-13, at a cost of £130,000 (which would not pay for half of one of the flats being constructed on its ruins.) Partick Thistle's move to Maryhill in 1909, after over 30 years in Partick, was occasioned by the purchase of their stadium for construction of the granaries. In 1937 another granary, equally large was built adjacent to the original one, and this Meadowside girnal of Glasgow claimed for a while to be one of the world's largest brick buildings. It gave a curiously re-assuring feeling to see its bulk, and many united in opposition to its destruction, arguing that the granary itself could have been converted to housing. Though the developers successfully argued against this, a significant part of the original construction materials were recycled into the new buildings.

Photo: Hospital building Dunbarton Rd..Whether these new residents will consider themselves Partickonians remains to be seen. The construction of the Clydeside expressway separated Partick from the River Clyde, and it also cut Partick itself asunder. At the Thornwood Roundabout Dumbarton Road disappears under the Expressway, in a maze of flyovers, to re-emerge in the rather forlorn district of Whiteinch. Few people consider it so today, but from its foundation Whiteinch was part of Partick burgh. Very little was found hereabouts till the Barclay Curle shipyard opened in the 1850s, moving from Anderston. Starting with clippers and ending with liners, and building almost everything else in between Barclay Curle was one of Glasgow's finest shipyards, a specialist builder which even managed to operate fully during the 1930s Depression. The yard has been demolished but the marine engine works Barclay Curle built just before World War One remains, with its fine hammer head crane and the (listed) mansard roof enlivening the skyline.

Whiteinch

Whiteinch is, at the moment, rather forlorn, with much brown land and many closed shops, but at one time was almost a model village. South of Dumbarton Road were the tenements for the workers in the shipyard, and to the north were rows of modest villas, Gordon Park, built in the 1880s for workers from the Scotstoun estate. These, clustered round the bowling green, now form a conservation area. Cut off from Partick by the expressway, Whiteinch was also cut off from Victoria Park to the north by the same road, which took over a slice of the park itself. A stroll through the park will not only bring you back to Partick proper, but also allow you to see the world-famous Fossil Grove which it contains. Not just one, but a whole stand of fossilised scale trees, over 250 million years old, with their trunk-like roots, excellently preserved. Again though not generally thought of as Partick today Victoria Park was actually laid out by the burgh.

Photo: Thornwood. Thornwood

Renegotiating the over and underpasses of the expressway brings you to the bottom of Thornwood Drive, cursing the negative effects such roads have on urban communities - and on urban pedestrianism. Thornwood has always had the reputation of being the posh part of Partick, and hereabouts reminds me of Dennistoun. Fine red sandstone tenements, well maintained and inhabited by the prosperous and respectable working and lower middle classes. There can be a monotony in respectability but in Thornwood this is broken by some of the best council housing in the city. There are blocks of good municipal housing, and at Crathie Drive a building of exceptional merit and interest which dominates the Thornwood skyline. This is Crathie Court built in 1952, but its art deco features show pre-war design influence in the projecting balconies and lines of porthole windows. Set in well maintained grounds, the building was designed as 88 flats for single people at a time when almost all housing was for the standard nuclear family. In recognition of its importance the building gained a Saltire Award. Crow Road takes us back down to Dumbarton Road, and slightly more scruffy East Partick.

But even here the relentless march of gentrification continues. Up Norval Street off Crow Road generations of Pertick wummen toiled in Tomlinson's factory making cardboard boxes; you could watch then from the passing blue trains at Partick Station. Today its bright pastel exterior and atrium roof proclaim it as The Printworks apartment block.

Riots in Partick, 1875

Moving along Dumbarton Road is a pleasant pedestrian experience, as the line of the street is virtually unbroken and the commercial premises are all occupied and well maintained, in contrast to those in Whiteinch. It was not always so pleasant however, and in 1875 a procession of Irish nationalists on Dumbarton Road was attacked by political opponents, leading to three days of rioting. This was ended only when special constables were sworn in, to support the police in quelling the disturbances. Partick?s other great unrest was in the Rent Strikes of 1915 when the area was one of the strongest in the city for action against profiteering. These struggles were led by the Partick housewives, harrassing the landlords agents with hails of refuse and laying about them with pots and pans. The women in turn were led by I.L.P. member Helen Crawford. The women of Partick appear a fierce brood. A famous nineteenth century Partick lass was Big Rachael, all 6ft 4 inches and 16 stones of her. She worked as a labourer in the Meadowside yard and later as a foreman(person) in a brickworks. In the Riots of 1875 she was enrolled as a special constable.

Before 1914 Partick was a stronghold of Orangeism, especially its shipyards where many had come to work from Ulster; it is not generally recognised that 40% of the city's Irish immigration came from Ulster, and this was largely responsible for bringing the poison of sectarianism to Glasgow. John Paton, in his Proletarian Pilgrimage, writes of his dismay at finding such a phenomenon in Glasgow, so absent in his native Aberdeen. He describes how an ILP propaganda lorry was set ablaze by Orangemen in Partick, and the comrades decided to assert their right of free speech by a march along Dumbarton Road. They were ambushed by well-organised groups emerging from closes to attack the procession, Paton comments,

'We'd no chance at all against them They were tough fellows from the shipyards who enjoyed nothing so much as a good fight. It wasn't a defeat, it was a rout'.

However, even before the war these die hard Tory Orangemen were prepared to listen to socialist speakers, rather than simply attack them. Paton recounts the factory gate meeting at a Whiteinch shipyard (probably Barclay Curle's), addressed by his fellow Aberdonian, Jamie Kessack. Immediately grasping their attention by his opening words,

'Last Sunday I stood on the Custom House steps at Belfast, girdled by the steel of the bayonets of the circle of soldiers who enclosed me.'

Kessack got a "rapt audience and hearty applause at the end." The war and its aftermath seriously weakened, though it did not kill, political Orangeism.

A wee trip off to Dumbarton Road to Burgh Hall Street allows us to take a look at the centre of Partick government from 1852 till 1912. In that latter year an Act of Parliament overturned Partick's wishes to remain independent, and a piper played "Lochaber no More". Would that, a century on, our politicians had the courage to similarly add Glasgow's present periphery to the city. But Partick, Govan and Maryhill were working class areas; Bearsden and Newton Means are not.

Partick Burgh Halls, though well used and being renovated, cannot compete with those of Maryhill and Govan, for example, either in exterior embellishment or interior furnishings. But it certainly had a better view, looking out as it does across the lawns of the West of Scotland Cricket ground to the villas of Partickhill rising beyond. Once a curling pond and bowling green, the site later became the centre of the rather un-Scottish game of cricket, which it remains. It has a place in football history however, in that it hosted the first Scotland England international in 1872. Not only roads and railways can separate social classes, so too can parks, or sports fields, and while at the north end of the cricket ground you are in patrician Partickhill, on the south you are in proletarian Partick. Partick library, which is passed on the right heading back to the Cross, used to have a nice wee exhibition on the history of the area, though it was missing on my last visit.

Glasgow Gaels

Between Gardner Street and Stewartville Street is one of the few cleared areas on Dumbarton Road, where a block of tenements was demolished to make way for a recreation area. This that could be better maintained, and the Friends of Mansfield park are working hard at it. On Stewartville Street, occupying the ground floor of a solid set of tenements built, as it proudly states, by the St. George's Co-operative Society is found the offices of An Commun Ghaidhligand a Gaelic bookshop. It is appropriate that this is located here as Partick has always had a tradition of Gaelic immigrants and Gaelic churches. It is estimated that in Partick and the wider West End of Glasgow there is a greater concentration of Gaelic speakers than anywhere outside Lewis in the Western isles. Though this tradition was swelled by the influx of Gaels to work on various jobs on the Clyde, it goes further back to when Partick was on the drove route into Glasgow from the West Highlands. The drovers came down what is now Crow Road (Crow is from the Gaelic croadh, cattle) and overnighted in Partick before moving into Glasgow. A famous inn, Granny Gibbs, was the destination of these drovers, and lay near the present Thornwood roundabout. This inn was built by her husband in 1796 when droving was at its height, and demolished a century later, when it had ended. Drovers kept their sheep and cattle in her pens, before moving into Glasgow. Her thatched dwelling was commemorated in another of the prolific Partick poets, George Boyce,

The drovers passing east and west
Knew her wee hoose of call
With Highland whisky o the best
She would supply them all.

This tradition of Highland hostelry continues in the pub on the corner of Stewartville Street, the Lismore, which does much to support Gaelic music and culture. The owners have also commissioned a set of fine stained glass windows in the pub, commemorating the Highland Clearances, and showing Highlanders at work. These panels have clearly been influenced by those of Stephen Adam in Maryhill Burgh Halls. Partick's taverns have a long tradition of conviviality. Bunhouse Road is not named after a bakery but after an inn called the Bun and Yill Hoose which formerly stood there. In Strangs Glasgow and its Clubs we read of the Partick Duck Club. This group of Glasgow worthies were mainly from the Trades House, and used to repair to Partick to feast at the Bun Hoose on roast duck and peas, washed down with claret. One of their number was immortalised in the couplet,

The ducks of Partick quack for fear
Crying 'Lord preserve us, there's MacTear!'

The profusion of fat ducks in Partick was due to their feasting on the products and by products of the grain mills on the Kelvin. The old Bunhoose apparently had a lintel dated 1695 over the door, but was demolished in 1849.

Back at the foot of Byres Road we are at Partick Cross. Here is a curious scene. On the one hand good quality red sandstone tenements, and on the other every inch of vacant land being filled with lofts and appartments. On the one hand the spread of up-market restaurants and cafes, on the other the survival of little works, almost sweatshops - and probably the greatest concentration of charity shops in Glasgow. Does this signify a hidden poverty in Partick, or just that the nearby denizens of the more prosperous west-end areas can spot a bargain when they see one? Its worst housing long ago demolished by the expressway Partick does not give out the air of dereliction of certain other inner city working class areas of Glasgow. Its population, which grew form about 5,000 in 1852 to 56,000 in 1912, has declined to about 40,000 today, and is rising again.

Photo: Cottage.The University was never in Partick. But the Western Infirmary, or rather the Anderson College of Medicine as it originally was, did lie within the burgh boundaries, but only just, after the institution was moved from Glasgow in 1889. A dramatic relief by Pittendreich Macgillivray adorns the building, showing doctors performing an operation. He was an Aberdeen artist who did much work in Glasgow. Just within Partick also, and bearing an address in Dumbarton Road, is the curious Tudor Cottage on the north bank of the Kelvin, within Kelvingrove Park. This was an exhibit of model workers' housing from Leverhume's Port Sunlight factory on Merseyside. It was shown at the International Exhibition in Kelvingrove in 1901, and later donated to the city, for use as a park keepers dwelling. This is the last, or first, dwelling in Partick and a good place to end.

In 1912 they played Lochaber no More; such is the rate of change in Partick, as it becomes swallowed up by the West End of Glasgow, that it may soon be Partick No More. Close to the West End, close to the university, close to the Art Gallery, Partick was always that bit different from other working class areas in Glasgow.

Copyright I.R. Mitchell

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I lived at 559 Dumbarton Road from 1955 when I was years old to 1963. Went to Thornwood Primary and then to Hyndland Senior Secondary. Left Glasgow in 1963 to move to Whitburn, West Lothian. While in Partick attended Thornwood Primary with Marion Dey, Mary Shill, Esther Duthie, Margaret McNaught, Carol Fulton, Ronald McCloud [Goudie}, Raymond Ellis,Gordon Scobie and Gordon McNeil. Most of us went on to Hyndland and others to Hamilton Crescent school. Remember going to The Rosevale and the Tivoli to "the pictures". Had fun times also at Whiteinch Park on the boats and fishing for minnows - also skating on the pond in winter. Remember going to Whiteinch baths for swimming lessons once a week with my brother Colin and my mother- the big treat going home was going to "the chippie". Used to walk to Kelvingrove Park and The Art Gallery most Sundays - School summer holidays would find us at Kelvingrove Park either roller skating or paddling in the fountain. Then there was the carnival at Kelvin Hall every year and the "carnie kids attending our school while the Carnival was at the Kelvin Hall. I remember my brother screaming in terror on The Maad Mouse - the first roller coaster we ever experienced. I have lived in Ontario Canada since December 1971 - if there is anyone out there that recognises my name I would love to hear from them. Regards, Elizabeth Liebrock nee Callander.

Elizabeth Liebrock nee Calland | Mon Jul 14 2008

Thank you Mr. Mitchell for this delightful insight. My dad's family lived along Dumbarton Road, era 1850+ Dad ended up in South Africa as result of the Boer War and all close contact with our Partick family was lost. I am in possession of family photographs and feel the usual connection to the land of my ancestors dearly. Maybe a Wilson link still survives in Partick? Best Regards, David Wilson, Ottawa.

David Wilson | Sat Jul 12 2008

Greetings from Canada - I lived in Partick from 1955 to 1969 - attended Thornwood Primary and Hyndland Senior Secondary - delighted to find this site - once in a while thoughts go back to younger days,memories of living in Partick and of school friends ie Mary Shill, Esther Duthie, Marion Dey, Margaret McNaught. Often wonder what became of everyone. I moved to Canada in 1971 - married with 2 sons and work in Social Work. Would be delghted to hear from anyone.

Elizabeth Liebrock nee Calland | Thu Jul 03 2008

I lived in Thornwood Drive for my final year in Glasgow uni over 1995-6. My room window faced west so having the sun coming through at 4 am in June was interesting for someone from south Wales. Other memories include an Orange march processing down the road and switching the TV on after the entire street cheered as Scotland were awarded a penalty against England in Euro 96. Everyone remembers what happened after the penalty missed. Great goal though and I don't even like football. I visited Glasgow last year and had forgotten how big the city is and how long Argyle Street is. Unfortunately I cannot forget the awful winter of that year, slab grey for weeks. But equally the spring early summer of 1992 when I lived in Hyndland was a stunning 6 weeks or so of beautiful weather. The late summer of 96 was also unforgetably lovely too. Maybe I 'll come back one day to stay.

Mark Cooke | Tue May 06 2008

My father was George Rennie Browne. He was born in the Partick fire station. His Dad, I've been told, drove the first motor driven fire truck in Glasgow. I have some old pictures and I would like more information. My father went to school at St. Mungo's Academy. My father moved to Illinois in the early 1920's. His father died before his Mom and her 4 boys moved to America.

Amy Petrusa | Tue Apr 01 2008

My father was George Rennie Browne. He was born in the Partick fire station. His Dad, I've been told, drove the first motor driven fire truck in Glasgow. I have some old pictures and I would like more information. My father went to school at St. Mungo's Academy. My father moved to Illinois in the early 1920's. His father died before his Mom and her 4 boys moved to America.

Amy Petrusa | Tue Apr 01 2008

I would like a photo of Northinch St, Whiteinch, Glasgow, before 1955. I was born there 53 years ago, but my parent's tennement house was demolished to make way for the Clyde Tunnel. I would like to stand on the spot where number 38 Northinch St stood. I moved to Drumchapel months after I was born, but Whiteinch is where I am from.

Gavin Goff | Tue Apr 01 2008

i lived in rosevale street partick until 1969. when i was 8 i moved to kilmarnock.my mother was isabel carmichael nee carter my father was john (hoagy) originaly from whiteinch my mother was from the mac donald family i beleive they were a well known family in partick my aunt mary ramsay was the manageress in city bakeries in merkland st for years does anyone remember any of my family

maria paterson | Wed Mar 12 2008

Someone was asking about India Street, Partick. (Sorry, can't make sense of what email address belongs to whom or I'd have emailed). India Street is now the part of Chancellor Street which is on west side of Hyndland Street. Colin Cox

COLIN COX | Tue Feb 05 2008

Someone was asking about India Street, Partick. (Sorry, can't make sense of what email address belongs to whom or I'd have emailed). India Street is now the part of Chancellor Street which is on west side of Hyndland Street. Colin Cox

COLIN COX | Tue Feb 05 2008

Looking for Robert Woodrow Lewis born aprox. 1892, married Sarah Sept 4, 1914. John Bryson Lewis was born at Kennedy Drive Nov.6, 1920. I am searching for Robert Lewis' grave. He died aprx. 1923. Can anyone help? Thank you

barbara lewis | Mon Jan 21 2008

Hi My grandfather Patrick McSherry was the coalman in Partick around about 1930 with his horse and cart also my other grandfather Andrew Irvine was the manager of the Thornwood pub in Partick when it was refurbished in the 30's with that bright yellow frontage

Andrew Irvine | Thu Dec 13 2007

In 1934 my mother was born in Stobhill Hospital. Her family lived firstly at 1 Queen Street, Partick then moved to 16 Dock Street. Does anyone have any connection to or know anything about these streets? I'd love some information.

Elizabeth-Anne Ponting | Tue Oct 23 2007

Found this site by chance.My gran and Papa stayed at 36 Merkland Street in Partick from the 30s till late 50s. Jean and Alec (Sanny) Wilson.They had daughters Margaret,Betty Jean,Sandra,Stella and Linda.They went to Rosevale school then Hyndland Secondary School.My gran worked in Decemonis cafe and my papa worked for Sloans Dairies.My grans best pal was May Massey.I have heard wonderful stories all my life about Partick and went up to visit with all the family a couple of years ago,it was a fantastic day.We saw where the pawnshop was and the F&F ballroom was.Does anyone remember our family ? My gran is still alive and is now 93.

Carole McConnachie | Thu Oct 11 2007

Hi, From the 1901 census records, I have relatives that stayed at Muirhead Street, Partick, which has since been renamed. Does anyone know what it is called now? Thanks

Harry Maclean | Tue Oct 09 2007

Looking for Ray/Ray's from Partick. My gggrandfather John Ray married in 1885 in St Peters Church Bridge Street Partick & resided in Anderson Street. He was a policeman at one point & was actually born in India.

cc | Sat Sep 22 2007

this is a message for jean ann mc donald i lived in partick and my dad was friends with a james garvin who owned stables in anderson street and he used to take me there when i was small 6 7 years old my name was annette watters my dad tony it has to be the same stable as it was the only one i am now years old

annette hunter | Sun Sep 09 2007

Can any one tell me if the old houses at George Street are still standing, my kin folk came from this Street in Partick. Does anyone have any old photos of this Street which could be scanned and sent to me as an e-mail attatchment. George Street is now called Medwyn Street I think !!

Billy | Sat Sep 08 2007

Can anyone tell me the name of the canon at the Glasgow Cathedral who in the time of Keir Hardie et al was the Catholic Director of Youth Activities? I think his name was O'Leary. I'm sure he went on to become a priest at the presbytery in St Partick's. I'd love to know more about this guy, apparently he was also mixed up with the Irish priest who used the Vatican as a means of smuggling jews from danger. Ta in advance, and from Australia

ocosgrove | Thu Aug 02 2007

My gran was born in 112 West Hozier street( which later became Beith street)in 1901. Her name was Mary Black and she married Charles McLaughlin in St Pauls March 1920.She would still go to the Rosevale bar on a Saturday night until she passed away in 1976.Jessie Tweedie was someone she would meet there. She went to Hamilton Crescent school as I did myself and now my grandson is there although its now Hyndland primary. She used to go to dances in Partick Burgh hall as a young woman 1918/19. Does anyone have any photos of around that time? I have no photos of her as a young woman. My Papa was a riveter on the Clyde and was also a shoemaker for Lens who still have a store in Byres Road. I work in Los Angeles and New York although I still have a home in Glasgow and the days spent as a child in Whiteinch/Partick were the best days of my life.

Sheena Leggat | Mon May 14 2007

Hi Partick Folks I lived on Patick Bridge Street by Partick Cross went to School at St Peters on Stewartville St I remember the De Marcos Ices but forget the location.My Dad delivered milk in Patick was known to all as Charlie the Milkman I was thinking about a trip over there (from California)but most of my history has been obliterated Tenament and high school (St Pauls) long gone I 'm not sure I'd reconize the old Burgh I left in 1957.

Joseph D Quinn | Thu May 10 2007

Does any one know if there was a crash between hyndland and thornwood when the partickhill train used to run on the partickhill line.

Janey | Thu Apr 12 2007

i was brought up in partick went to school at downhill pr hyndland pr and hyndland sec although im 33 i have seen a lot of changes over the years though not all are nice ones my family are all from partick my dad had stables in anderson st along with my grandfather most partickonians will know my family i love to hear the stories of the auld days and i also went to the steamie though its use was not as great in the 80s as years gone bye i love partick and all the history it holds for my family.

jean-ann | Sat Apr 07 2007

We found a Census entry of 1901 for an ancestor: terrible writing: seems to be for India Street, Partick. But we can't find any street of that name in Partick even before streets were renamed. Any ideas? Also, what non-denomational school would someone living in Mansefield street have gone to?

Moira Fleming | Thu Mar 29 2007

Oh and my children also went to Thornwood Primary school. I used to live in Thornwood drive and have fond memories of walking along dumbarton road. I had moved to scotland from The Hasimaite Kingdom Of Jordan it was so new to and liberating to me.

shaheen | Thu Mar 22 2007

I used to live in Partick in 1990. Can anyone tell me what the term "Getting off at Partick "means and where it originated from.Thanks

shaheen | Thu Mar 22 2007

My parents met and lived in Partick back in the 60's (Beith Street)and have great memories. I'm trying to track any information about the church they got married in. I think it was on Rosevale Street and called St Brides. They were married in 1967. If anyone has any info please let me know. I still have relatives in Partick (Thornwood Drive) and love visiting.

F Macdonald | Sun Mar 11 2007

Do you live in Partick or have you lived in Partick in the past? What do you think about housing, community, shops, transport, schools, the social scene? I’d like to hear from you. I’m a researcher working with Glasgow University Oxfam UK Poverty Programme and Westgap (West Glasgow Against Poverty) investigating the socio-economic changes occurring in Partick. I want to document contemporary working class lives. Partick, like many other areas is becoming increasingly socially mixed with new modern housing developments and the decline of traditional industries. I’m interested in how people live, how it’s changed from the past and how residents see their area and their community. There is very little research on those people living in poverty in socially mixed areas and the impacts – positive or negative - which regeneration polices can have on the community when put into practice on the ground. I’m looking to talk to a wide variety of people about their experiences of living in Partick. I would like to hear diverse range of life stories and views. If you, or you know of someone who would, have time to spare, we can meet and chat over tea, coffee or a pint (all costs covered). Please contact me.

kirsteen | Mon Feb 19 2007

I was born and lived at 30 Anderson St. in Partick. Ther was a whole bunch of us , Grandparents Aunts ,uncles & cousins all lived on the same street. We went to St Peters schools. It was a treat to get ice-cream from De Marco's and to get sweeties at Emma's or Stewarts. I loved to go to the steemie with my mum. My cousin lived on Purdon st. where the pawn shop was. I loved the high back.I loved to lie in bed and listen to the people coming home from their dates or whatever and they would wistle a song on there way.My grandparents owned the firewood merchants place on Rosevale st.we used to play at the park on Beith st.Do you remember the workie, it seemed to go so high.I have so many wonderful memories of Partick , and this was such a great site. I will be checking in quite often now.

Marion Sylvia (nee Derrick) | Thu Feb 15 2007

Partick Central Ticket Office was fully demolished by supermarket giant Tesco on 28 January 2007. Tesco have not yet secured planning application for their store on the site. Pictures of demolition and newspaper coverage available on request! Visit www.stoptesco.info to learn more...

Samer Bagaeen | Mon Feb 05 2007

Woked as an apprentice joiner at duncan barbour 1949 to 1955 they were at rosevale st anyone remember that company

john donaldson | Sun Feb 04 2007

R.I.P Partick Central Station (189?-2007)

Joel Shaver | Fri Feb 02 2007

thanks to this website it has helped me with my uni studies, i have lived in partick for 15 years and went to hndland primary and secondary, its a great place to live. thanks x louisa mcleod

louisa | Wed Nov 29 2006

thanks to this website it has helped me with my uni studies, i have lived in partick for 15 years and went to hndland primary and secondary, its a great place to live. thanks x

louisa | Wed Nov 29 2006

thanks to this website it has helped me with my uni studies, i have lived in partick for 15 years and went to hndland primary and secondary, its a great place to live. thanks x

louisa | Wed Nov 29 2006

thanks to this website it has helped me with my uni studies, i have lived in partick for 15 years and went to hndland primary and secondary, its a great place to live. thanks x

louisa | Wed Nov 29 2006

I was born in Glasgow and lived in 31 Dowanhill Street, Partick until about 1960 when I moved to Bishop Auckland, Country Durham and then to Brisbane, Australia. Is it likely that any of your readers would remdmber me and if so would like to make contact. Findlay McKechnie

findlay mckechnie | Fri Nov 10 2006

I was born in Glasgow and lived in 31 Dowanhill Street, Partick until about 1960 when I moved to Bishop Auckland, Country Durham and then to Brisbane, Australia. Is it likely that any of your readers would remdmber me and if so would like to make contact. Findlay McKechnie

findlay mckechnie | Fri Nov 10 2006

I found this site by chance and was fascinated by the comments of former residents of Partick. I wonder if anyone who knew me when I lived in Partick would remember me. I lived with my grandmother, Kate Hannah, at 31 Dowanhill Street, and left to work in newspapers in England around 1960. I now live in Brisbane, Australia.

findlay mckechnie | Fri Nov 10 2006

My father was born in Partick 1925 South Street.Malcolm McElhinney. His parants were John McElhinney,Mary Cowan both lived in Gairbraid Street in 1901 If anyone can help me i would be very greatful. And your siye is GREAT keep up the good work.

Aileen Haggarty | Thu Oct 12 2006

My father, John Boyce (Jack) was born in 66 Merkland Street in 1918 and lived his childhood years in poverty. His siblings were, Lizzie, Ellen and Tom. Does anyone remember them? Later he married and we lived at 649 Dunbarton Road. I attended Thornwood Primary until we left for Cumbernauld in 1966. I can recall playing in the "plots" - waste ground in front of the school which may have been the remains of a city farm - you may know better. I still visit Partick and hope some day to live there again.

Jim Boyce | Wed Sep 20 2006

does anyone have any more information or pictures relating to de marcos ice cream in partick i would be most grateful

diane de marco | Tue Sep 19 2006

does anyone have any more information or pictures relating to de marcos ice cream in partick i would be most grateful

diane de marco | Tue Sep 19 2006

excellent site for memorys ,can remember going up the cross park to play football and the tivoli picture house, left Partick in 1974,but not in spirit.

DO'Donnell | Tue Aug 08 2006

Many thanks to all those who contacted me with information on the Purdon family of Partick. I have learned a lot! Thanks to Ian Mitchell as well for the detailed history of Partick. Raymond Reitsma

Raymond Reitsma | Thu Jul 27 2006

I had family ancestors living at Rosevale, Dumbarton Road in 1860; does anyone know anything about this ?house? Thanking you Margaret Hepburn Australia

Margaret Hepburn | Thu Jul 20 2006

I was brought up in beith st. went to rosevale primary,my gran went to the steamie every thursday, beside the library,i remember the iron bridge,the blacksmiths,the cattle waiting in the sidings,swing park,bowling green,and the stables for ross's dairies, and i left in 1975.

DONALD GILLESPIE | Fri Jun 23 2006

This write up is wonderful. My father (Alexander) and uncle (john) grow up on Purdon Street near the baths. My grandfather owned a bakery in the 30's(ish). It's interesting to have met another Purdon here in Vancouver who says his origin is Purdon Street yet I still can't make any connection. I did however track down family in Boston, USA who were connected. I was last in Scotloand in 2005 to show my Canadian wife her new family background. However, I couldn't tell her exactly who was buried in the grave site as I don't know where they fit on the family tree.

Alistair Purdon | Fri Jun 16 2006

Greetings from Canada! My great great grandmother, Margaret Purdon (1827-1901) was born in Partick, Scotland. She married John Murdoch Paterson, of Rutherglen. Can anyone tell me which branch of the Purdon family she belonged to? Where can I find out more information about her family? Thanks, Raymond

Raymond Reitsma | Tue May 30 2006

My Grandparents, James and Elizabeth Dick, and their family of 4 boys, John, Allan, James, and Robert, left Partick in 1923 and emigrated to Dunedin, New Zealand. My three children have just travelled to Glasgow to get a feeling of where their descendants came from and found that the original home was still standing. The address at 3 Crow Road is now occupied by a Dental Surgery of Dr L F Galbraith. Colin Dick

Colin Dick | Wed Apr 05 2006

I lived in Partick from 1923 to 1934 in Dumbarton road. My father had a fishsoupper shop called Nicoletti and brothers. Anyone remeber? Now i live in italy with my daughter .... sorry for my english .. bye to my beloved glasgow

ede | Fri Mar 17 2006

Aint it great,all the people who remember THE OLD PARTICK. I left Crawford Steet in 1963 and have lived and worked in many places but will never forget Rosevale st Primary & Hyndland Schools. 71st. BB De-Marcos The Govan ferry,Shoogly Caurs footie in the ''Whiteinch Park '' Daddies coming home from the Yards Wally Closes (Posh people) Partick Thistle Kelvin Hall and The Art Galleries on a Sunday etc etc When one looks back those really were the happy days never to be forgotten

Tom (Tommy) Webb | Mon Nov 21 2005

I lived in 474, Dumbarton Road. Went to Thornwood School, bought ice lollies from DeMarco's on the way to and from said school. Went to Hyndland (an' they made me wear a school bunnet.......for a day! an' I threw it away) Ran about with wee Ronnie Watt, Andy Murray, big Angus Ross (who's faither wus a polisman)and Dennis Walker. 108th BB and hot Vimto in a wee cafe across from Balshagry school after. Miss Partick a lot and had great times there. All the best to all there. (Especially wee Jeanie Urquart who's brother George I met in South Africa 30 years later.) Sandy Kelman

Sandy Kelman | Sun Nov 06 2005

Left Gardner St. Partick 48 years ago. Been back a few times. Is there anybody left that I knew? Bill Purdon, are you the same guy I went to school with, Allan Glens? Anybody else still around?

Bill or Billy or Willie MURPHY | Fri Sep 23 2005

My mother was born in Castlebank st Partick in 1935,my gparents were William &Helen Love,nee Duffy. If anybody knows anything at all of this family, It would be greatly appreciated, as to date I have not been able to learn anything of my Scottish family. I beleive my grandfather may of worked at the docks.

Tracy | Tue Aug 23 2005

i found a old a old falogon when clearing a building in clydebank it was from a company called j&w denholm botanical brewers of 29 crow road partick i would be very greatfull if u had any information on this company as i have family who live their and came from partick cross and rossevale st if you would be so kind to pass any information on

brewboy | Tue Aug 16 2005

I feel that had you actually visited Partick in recent years, you would find that Mansfield Park lies between Hyndland Street and Mansfield Street and that the Lis More is at the corner of Mansfield Street.

Bill Priest | Tue Apr 12 2005

Thanks for the information, there is so much great history in Glasgow. Can anybody tell me more about the former Partick Central Station, now labelled Partick Central Auction? Is it listed? Who actually owns it at the moment? What of these plans to build a supermarket in the area?

Alastair Johnson | Thu Mar 10 2005

Regarding your comments about the Partick Coat of Arms - a colleague of mind has a photo of the said object on the bridge and comparison with the coat of Arms shows it does indeed have a wheatsheaf and two millstones at its top.

Sarah | Tue Mar 08 2005

Hi Jim and Pat, Just thought I would let you both know that since my email was published regarding PARTICK, I have received numerous emails from people regarding PARTICK in the old days. Many thank's once again for publishing my letter to you. Cate

cate | Sat Feb 05 2005

Our School is by Loch Ness and in the recent storms a tree, over 100 years old, was blown down in the wood next to our playground. In the roots of the tree was found an old bottle with the name J. W. Trotter & Co, Peel Lane, Partick. We have all been trying to find out more about the history of this fascinating find but with no luck. Can anyone help?

e birss | Fri Feb 04 2005

i had the pleasure of visiting glasgow a couple of years ago. i looked for an adress 20 byron st partick (the home early in the 1900's of my grandmother's brother, david kyle) and found a toyota dealership. it's the only clue i have to that side of the family as all are gone now. would anyone hear be able to point me in the right direction? thanks, bill

riverbendbill | Mon Jan 31 2005

It was great to read of the history of a neighborhood I lived in for the first four years of my life at 15 Apsley Street.My dad was getting his PhD at Glasgow University before he,my mother and I moved to America. My brother, William Michael Purdon, who sent me this article,and I will be visiting next year with our families. We will look for the cemetary donated by the Purdons so long ago and other sites you have written about so well. Thank you. It was good to see our family name in print!There are very few Purdons in America!

Anne Purdon Bennett | Wed Oct 13 2004

What a well written article. I am a descendent of the Purdon's in Partick. My Great-Grandfather, Abraham Purdon was a business owner, Purdon Carriers I believe, and provided delivery services via teams of Clydesdales. I was last in Scotland visiting my Grandmother Annie Purdon, who lived at 15 Apsley Street, and many other relatives in Glasgow, Ayr and surrounding areas. My Grandfather, William Andrew Purdon, served proudly in the Seaforth Highlander Regiment and I am seeking further information about this regiment as well as my Great Grandfathers business in Glasgow. Our extended family is planning a trip next summer to visit family and friends...I'll be sharing your article with everyone....thanks!

William Michael Purdon | Wed Oct 13 2004

I left Partick in 1964 when I was 20. Iand have many happy memories of growing up in Apsley Street and the community spirit that existed then. From photos I see many of the tenements are now once again a wonderful colour. Does anyone have copies of photos taken at the Coronation street party in Apsley Street/Ardery Street?

Carroll Parras | Thu Aug 12 2004

I was very interested to read the history of Partick in the WEB SITE . I was born in Rosevale St. and for many years lived at 314 Dumbarton Rd. and Stewartville St. Partick Currently I live in Bradley Stoke South Gloucester shire but my memories of Partick in the 1930 to 1960 is still quite vivid

ERNEST ROBERTSON | Fri Jun 25 2004

I have read all the new news about Partick and I truly hope that the name and the title PARTICK will not be lost in the name of 'A FEW POUNDS MORE'. Partick was only a small village when it first appeared, then a royal burgh, but again for a "FEW POUNDS MORE" lost to progess. Life around the mill in Partick and in Dunaskin Street (was also known as Newton Street) was something children of today would not know or understand. I should know I had hundreds of stories told to me by my great grandmother. We all lived there(Dunaskin St/Church Street and the mill) in two rows of tenements now gone. I guess not too many people know that Dunaskin (Newton St) was built on a grave yard. Not the small grave yard mentioned in the newsletter here. I remember going down to the factors office to pay my great gran's rent and looking at the rent book and seeing a name and city and country as to who owned the buildings then. From New York, USA. Sorry this is such a long email but when I see and hear what has been happening to the people I knew and their accommodation it must be very frightening for the old people that are left with only memories. regards Cate.

cate | Tue Jun 22 2004

It would appear that the area once ocupied by Partick Central is to soon become a Supermarket. The council circulated a letter recently asking for objections to be made in writing.

shuttle534 | Mon Jun 07 2004

The significance of the Scotland v England game in 1872 is much enhanced by pointing out that it was the first football international played anywhere in the World ( the result was not so excitng, being 0-0). Well done for a great site.

Bill Kidd | Tue Jun 01 2004

Mr Mitchell seems to have confused Stewartville Street with what is actually Mansfield Street. Mansfield Park is surrounded by four streets: Chancellor Street, Mansfield (not Strewartville) Street, Dumbarton Road and Hyndland Street. An Commun Ghaidhlg is of course on Mansfield Street (not Stewartville Street)and the Lismore Pub is on the corner of Dumbarton Road and Mansfield Street (rather than Stewartville Street. Stewartville Street is two blocks further west of Mansfield Street.

Angus Macleod | Thu May 20 2004

left partick 50 years ago, very pleased to read of modern developments.

jgardner600 | Mon May 17 2004

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