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What about Pig-Gate, fair puts you off your bacon sarnie

of course it makes you wonder who would leak such a story, probably an old school chum that is jealous of him, but by jingo they had better be far away.

 

George Osborne, now lets see how he fits the profile.  Went to Eton with Cameron - check.  Would be well ware of stupid initiations - check.  Covets the top job - check.  Is miles away in China - check.   Surely not?

 

Watch out for the Daily mail running interference - they'll need a 10 million muslim immigrants story or at least a Corbyn was KGB spy story 

 

 

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I do not think it is true but people have certainly had a very good laugh at his expense.  You do wonder about the impression people have of our Prime Minister when they might even think that he had been up to such capers.

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I've never seen such a frenzy on social media. I don't think he will shake off the mockery. Also the issue of whether he knew about Ashcroft's dodgy tax situation also raised. Lewd Eton pranks are one think but corruption quite another.

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The perverseness of it all is, if all we had was when he knew about Ashcroft's non dom status, it would be a storm in a teacup which would be chip paper the following day.  Pig-gate has made Cameron the story (and I bet its true) and his credibility is taking a pounding.  I have had tears running down my face at some of the social media mock ups; Miss Piggy has relaunched her career on the back of it.

The finest was a mock up of Miss Piggy as Monica Lewinsky saying 'I did not have sexual relations with that Politician', sheer genius.

 

Please, let PMQs on Thursday be pork scratchings day

 

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I've got to admit – I've had a laugh. A lot of very irreverent but very funny comment.  Folk have got some imagination when it comes to mockery not least of all the 'Je suis Peppa' posts.  I definitely flags up the very strange world of the elite coteries – the pig tale may not be true but the idea that it could be true really illustrates just what a sorry class ridden country is the UK.  Doesn't say much for the British values that Cameron is aye harping on about.

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I'm inclined to let out the odd snort when I laugh. I think I might perfect it. What a numpty pig ignorant PM we've got. His sort don't think there's anything wrong with these antics. Worse even is the Bullingdon Club or whatever it's called where the members think it's a hoot to burn fivers in front of homeless people.  There's nothing that can make that funny but I think this poke in the pig has a bit to run. lol

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Let us not forget, this odious man and the party he leads has spent the last 6 years demonising and waging economic war on the poorest in our society using the media as his weapon of manipulation.  Karma can be a right bitch.

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Kind of diminished the huge problem of Corbyn not singing the National Anthem and leaving his shirt button open. ha ha

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Meanwhile the odious weasel that is Osborne is over begging the Communist Chinese to help pay for a nuclear power station being built by a nationalised French energy company.  The Chinese thought him lovely because he did not mention human rights once.

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I heard it was a charm offensive. Don't know how that's working out. lol

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I scunnered myself watching part of his speech today – until I could take no more. Seems his new thing is building 'a greater Britain' – now that shouldn't be too hard but he'll have a bother tackling the discrimination he's suddenly discovered given that he's cut back the Equality and Human Rights budget from £70m to £17 m.

I didn't hear anything about the processes.  Of course, he really hates when the SNP complain about processes regarding the Scotland Bill so why should we expect him to explain how he will achieve greater equality?  There wasn't a single thing mentioned about how that could be achieved not unless you happen to think that taking away the requirement to build social rented housing fits in.

Interesting comments in The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/07/david-cameron-conference-speech-prime-minister#_=_

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he also made an almost identical speech to Corbyn regretting Bin Laden had been killed rather than brought to trial....and yet he screams that Corbyn's speech makes him a terrorist lover.  Theresa May was at her odious and vile best.  Never seen such a disgusting tory party conference before, they usually manage to keep their real vile inhumanity for behind closed doors. 

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On 09/10/2015 at 0:14 PM, samscafeamericain said:

he also made an almost identical speech to Corbyn regretting Bin Laden had been killed rather than brought to trial....and yet he screams that Corbyn's speech makes him a terrorist lover.  Theresa May was at her odious and vile best.  Never seen such a disgusting tory party conference before, they usually manage to keep their real vile inhumanity for behind closed doors. 

Their 'real vile inhumanity' was never more on show than last night when the Tories voted down the Bill to allow 3000 child refugees into the UK.   Their spurious argument was that in creating a greater pull factor then they would be putting more children at risk of traffickers. Notwithstanding the fact that some 10,000 children are already missing, no doubt many having fallen prey to traffickers.  A very shameful, despicable decision was made.  Three thousand was nothing but those wee lives could have been so improved.  Guess that's the British Values they are always harping on about.

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On Prime Minister's Question Time both, the dignified and genuine, Angus Robertson and the feisty Yvette Cooper tried to pin Cameron down on the issue of the denial of entrance to the 3,000 refugee children.  He sidesteps the issue as usual and trots out his mantra that the UK is doing more than anyone else to help the Refugees.  He added that the children had the right to claim asylum.  Good luck with that approach all those wee four year old orphans.  The man is a disgrace and treats us like numpties.

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Given their ordeal, I can't help but feel these poor children would probably be better off being taken in by Sweden or Denmark given the UK's appalling record of supporting children in care.  Saville and Rotherham have been at the extreme of the UK's complete failure to adequately support "looked after" children but what passes for everyday standard of care leaves many young people struggling in care and when they leave the care system.  Children orphaned by war and conflict need very specialist care and I am not sure the UK is in a position to provide it.  That said, I don't know how any politician could stand up their and entance entrance to these children.

Labour missed a trick in not electing Cooper.  I am hoping her time will come...

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7 hours ago, harper said:

Given their ordeal, I can't help but feel these poor children would probably be better off being taken in by Sweden or Denmark given the UK's appalling record of supporting children in care.  Saville and Rotherham have been at the extreme of the UK's complete failure to adequately support "looked after" children but what passes for everyday standard of care leaves many young people struggling in care and when they leave the care system.  Children orphaned by war and conflict need very specialist care and I am not sure the UK is in a position to provide it.  That said, I don't know how any politician could stand up their and entance entrance to these children.

Labour missed a trick in not electing Cooper.  I am hoping her time will come...

You've got a point, harper, but Sweden have already taken 23,000 lone refugee children. The UK needs to do their bit and that includes offering the right support. Their attitude is appalling.

Yvette Cooper is impressive.

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Cameron's behaviour at PMQs is nothing short of disgraceful and the speaker needs to make him start answering questions instead of the childish name calling

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To be honest, Pat.  If I was a child refugee I would want a better start than anything UK child services currently offer up as good practice.  There are other countries that are way ahead of us in treating child trauma.  That doesn't negate the point being made about Cameron but we aint all that ...

My goodness Yvette - not such a bad Blairite after all.

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I'll bet there are other countries way ahead of the UK, harper, but the kids haven't really got much choice. If it comes to between traffickers, for example, or the Uk then they'd be better here.  Some of them also have relatives in the UK. Those are the ones that he suggests can apply for asylum.  I don't know why Yvette didn't pull him up about that ludicrous suggestions, although, she did well.

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I wasn't suggesting that it was the traffickers or nothing.  I think Cameron's remarks reinforce why they would be better off somewhere else.  Despite talk of free houses and fridges, the situations that people are re-settled into here in the UK are pretty dire.  I take your point about relatives but more often people are left isolated and unsupported and what would actually happen to these children after they got here?  There were big headlines about the Pope taking 12 people back to Italy from Greece but smaller headlines about them being handed over to a charity when they got to Italy.  What happens next?  I have worked with young girls who were sex trafficked and sadly, nothing was done about it until they ended up in the local psychiatric unit.  

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I guess what I am saying is that it has to be more than just agreeing numbers and initial offers of asylum.  There has to be support for recovery after safety has been secured and we don't have a good track record on recovery support compared to some other places.  Personally I would want the children to have the best chance of recovery and if that means another country then I have no problem with that.  Sadly, the plight of the people get lost in the politics.  We need an international response to deal with this international crisis and solutions based in long term hope and recovery.  The last things these children need is to be caught up in more political point scoring that results in nothing being done. 

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I heard a reference to "Kindertransport" this morning, when 10,000 people were taken in by the UK as part of an organised rescue mission.  Very moving piece in the Guardian from one of the children who was rescued. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/30/it-was-life-and-death-for-us-and-its-the-same-today-kindertransport-children-speak

It shows me how far politics have fallen when political differences can't be set aside to respond to children in crisis.  

Sorry, rambled a bit off topic on this one ...

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