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Labour deserved the drubbing they got, with their election campaign being so shambolic. Not very sensible either having their experienced MSP's only standing on the constituency vote and not on the regional lists :rolleyes:

No question that the SNP did indeed benefit from the collapse in Lib Dem support - between that and Labour's shambolic campaign I don't find the result that big a surprise.

Be interesting now to see where the SNP are going to get all the money to fulfil their expensive manifesto promises. Just hope that it's not by racking up a whole load of debt when they get more financial powers ........

Glad that Galloway didn't get anywhere - neither did any of the far left parties like SSP or Solidarity. Aye, all change for the next few years anyway

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I haven't a clue about the bases, borderlass, but there are plenty of jobs I would rather see than those tied to Trident.

So would I Pat, but was just pointing out that Salmond was down at Westminster lobbying for Trident jobs to be kept in Scotland while the SNP position (as far as I can make out) is against Trident being based in Scotland. The SNP campaign office in Maryhill Rd has one of the slogans as "Teachers not Trident

Now, maybe I'm missing something but I don't see how we can have Trident jobs in Scotland without Trident :rolleyes:

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I feel sorry for Nick Clegg. Cameron home and dry and more smug than ever.

Don't feel any sympathy at all for him - he's a complete chancer who abandoned his principles and betrayed those who voted for him. The bookies are taking bets on whether he'll quit as leader - found the page earlier on the BBC website but have lost it again :rolleyes: Think they had Chris Huhne as favourite to take over if Clegg goes.

If it's No in the referendum vote then I think that will increase his chances of going sooner rather than later.

Aye, interesting times in politics these days :lol:

ETA - Just found it on the live blog

William Hill is offering odds of 2/1 that Nick Clegg resigns as Liberal Democrat leader by the end of this year, the Daily Telegraph's blog reports. Chris Huhne has been offered as 2/1 favourite to succeed Clegg if he does go. Other candidates include Tim Farron at 11/4, Danny Alexander at 6/1, and Norman Lamb at 7/1.

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Labour deserved the drubbing they got, with their election campaign being so shambolic. Not very sensible either having their experienced MSP's only standing on the constituency vote and not on the regional lists :rolleyes:

Glad that Galloway didn't get anywhere - neither did any of the far left parties like SSP or Solidarity. Aye, all change for the next few years anyway

Aye the SNP do that and they've got a fourth rate candidate in.

BBC Scotland's Catriona Renton said it would be close to 1600 BST for the Mid-Scotland and Fife regional list. SNP are going to have to go down to number four on their list to find someone who has not already been elected in a constituency seat.

Galloway polled more than the lib dems in the regional lists.

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This election has left the quislings, apologists and fearties looking for curtains to hide behind.

Well done the people of Scotland, turning their back on those that would have you believe you are inferior.

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This election has left the quislings, apologists and fearties looking for curtains to hide behind.

Presumably that is your opinion of anyone who does not share your views Sam - how immature :rolleyes:

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This election has left the quislings, apologists and fearties looking for curtains to hide behind.

Well done the people of Scotland, turning their back on those that would have you believe you are inferior.

Who turned their backs on whom, exactly, Sam?

What's the point of spoiling an outstanding result by trotting out something so cringeworthy? Even central casting would balk at that one... laugh.gif

I think Scotland voted for a good Scoailist Government, Sam. I am not sure where the quislings, apologists and fearties come into it.

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Who turned their backs on whom, exactly, Sam?

What's the point of spoiling an outstanding result by trotting out something so cringeworthy? Even central casting would balk at that one... laugh.gif

I think Scotland voted for a good Scoailist Government, Sam. I am not sure where the quislings, apologists and fearties come into it.

:rolleyes: 'Scoailist' - that's a great word, harper. Did you just think it up? :lol:

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Presumably that is your opinion of anyone who does not share your views Sam - how immature :rolleyes:

:lol: :lol: :lol: I just knew you would respond that's why I wrote :lol: :lol:

Touche

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laugh.gif 'Scoailist' - that's a great word, harper. Did you just think it up? wink.gif

Aye, same source as ma mundance... but it works.tongue.giflaugh.gif

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Aye, same source as ma mundance... but it works.tongue.giflaugh.gif

:rolleyes: I reckon if the Scoailists learn the mundance they should do fine. Or as well as possible given these hard economic times. Just heard about a youngster starting an apprenticeship so much cheerier news than all these folk losing their jobs.

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You've got to love Margo MacDonald. She may be a lone Independent voice within the Scottish Parliament but she is going to be so important.

“The benefit in being an independent is that I don’t have to mouth the false hopes that were issued by so many candidates because of their party line,” she said. “They were nearly fraudulent, in that they talk all the time about how they will manage the economy to make things better for Scotland but at the same time they’re in denial about just how much money is going to be taken out of the budget. They will not have the money to protect or stimulate employment. They want to, but they’re not going to have the resources to do it.”

I reckon she's highlighting a very real concern.

Apart from calling on the new ministers to be honest about the constraints of devolution she also asks that they "provide creative solutions targeting marginalised people in hard-hit areas."

She's been busy drafting a Bill with the assistance of Mike Dailly at Govan Law Centre aimed at protecting people from payday loan firms, which charge extortionate interest.

She says that she: "may gift the plan to a large party to speed it up". That's the sort of generosity and elan that is needed in this country.

She also hopes to keep her assisted suicide Bill on the agenda.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/margo-in-pledge-to-push-own-priorities-1.1100145

Just wish we had a few more Independents. Maybe some new shining lights will emerge they could pick up a tip or two from Margo. She's got personality plus real heart and an understanding of the problems 'marginalised people' face.

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That's Tavish Scott resigned as leader of his party now. I think the best thing the Scottish Lib Dems could do now is break completely with the main party and form a new party with a new name - they're .

As things stand right now there is no effective opposition to the SNP government and that is not good for any country imo. With Labour in meltdown, Tories being an irrelevance north of the border and the Scottish Lib Dems tainted by association with Clegg it's not a healthy state to be in.

And I totally agree with what Margo says about the finances. I think they are in denial about financial issues and that was demonstrated by Salmond going to court to prevent detailed figure about his local income tax plan being made public

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That's Tavish Scott resigned as leader of his party now. I think the best thing the Scottish Lib Dems could do now is break completely with the main party and form a new party with a new name - they're .

As things stand right now there is no effective opposition to the SNP government and that is not good for any country imo. With Labour in meltdown, Tories being an irrelevance north of the border and the Scottish Lib Dems tainted by association with Clegg it's not a healthy state to be in.

And I totally agree with what Margo says about the finances. I think they are in denial about financial issues and that was demonstrated by Salmond going to court to prevent detailed figure about his local income tax plan being made public

I agree with Margo too. Patrick Harvie seems to be saying much the same. There is no effective opposition - not exactly what Dewar had in mind. One advantage of the overall majority held by SNP may be that Scottish issues will be considered as more important by Westminster.

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Goodbye to Gray and Tavish Scott and now a Tory call for Annabel to quit.

John McGlynn a leading Tory donor has put up a message on the dreaded Facebook:

“I wonder if Annabel Goldie will now do the decent thing and accept that losing 25% of your seats from the worst-ever previous result in 2007 is a disaster and she should do the decent thing and resign too.”

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/senior-tory-donor-urges-goldie-to-resign-the-road-to-the-referendum-1.1100203

Somehow I doubt it. I think it's about time there was a move away from blaming individuals. The parties need to work out what their idealogy is, what their policies are and demonstrate that their party, rather, than the leader, can put their money where their mouth is.

The Tories have been in disarray in Scotland for many years and looks like inherited loyalty to Labour and the Lib Dems can no longer be depended upon and not a Socialist in sight. Time for some deep analysis and recouping.

The only ones that seem clear in their purpose are the Greens and the Pensioners Party. Ever a growing force. :)

Also talk in The Herald of calls for a General Election. Interesting!

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Goodbye to Gray and Tavish Scott and now a Tory call for Annabel to quit.

John McGlynn a leading Tory donor has put up a message on the dreaded Facebook:

“I wonder if Annabel Goldie will now do the decent thing and accept that losing 25% of your seats from the worst-ever previous result in 2007 is a disaster and she should do the decent thing and resign too.”

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/senior-tory-donor-urges-goldie-to-resign-the-road-to-the-referendum-1.1100203

Somehow I doubt it. I think it's about time there was a move away from blaming individuals. The parties need to work out what their idealogy is, what their policies are and demonstrate that their party, rather, than the leader, can put their money where their mouth is.

The Tories have been in disarray in Scotland for many years and looks like inherited loyalty to Labour and the Lib Dems can no longer be depended upon and not a Socialist in sight. Time for some deep analysis and recouping.

Annabels' going in the autumn

I totally agree Pat that it's time they moved away from blaming individuals. Even tho' Iain Gray was not the best of leaders, there were a number of factors contributed to the party's dreadful results . Tavish Scott ran a good campign (imho) , but was hampered by the Clegg factor, while the Tory's long-standing unpopularity in Scotland has nothing to do with Annabel Goldie - I actually think she is quite an asset to the Parliament and her party, and common sense, no nonsense approach goes down well with many non-Tories. Will be interesting to see who they will put in place to turn the party's fortunes around north of the border :)

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Annabels' going in the autumn

I totally agree Pat that it's time they moved away from blaming individuals. Even tho' Iain Gray was not the best of leaders, there were a number of factors contributed to the party's dreadful results . Tavish Scott ran a good campign (imho) , but was hampered by the Clegg factor, while the Tory's long-standing unpopularity in Scotland has nothing to do with Annabel Goldie - I actually think she is quite an asset to the Parliament and her party, and common sense, no nonsense approach goes down well with many non-Tories. Will be interesting to see who they will put in place to turn the party's fortunes around north of the border :)

If Annabel Goldie has been 'encouraged' to go then that's a big mistake. At this rate there's not going to be much experience around at Holyrood among the Opposition. I doubt Salmond will welcome this news and I'm sure you're right about her style being appreciated, borderlass.

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If Annabel Goldie has been 'encouraged' to go then that's a big mistake. At this rate there's not going to be much experience around at Holyrood among the Opposition. I doubt Salmond will welcome this news and I'm sure you're right about her style being appreciated, borderlass.

Well, she's standing down as leader but will continue in Parliament for the full term. Interestingly enough Salmond has said that he holds Annabel "in the highest regard" and that although the Tories lost ground at this election, he believes that they would have "slipped back further without her", and both Tavish Scott & Iain Gray have also praised her. Seems she's appreciated by many folk except those in her own party looking for a scapegoat :)

Looks like the choice to replace her will be either Jackson Carlaw or Murdo whotsit (her deputy atm). You're completely right Pat- very little experience on the opposition benches and that is worrying :D

See Christine Graham has put her hat in the ring for the presiding officer

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Well, she's standing down as leader but will continue in Parliament for the full term. Interestingly enough Salmond has said that he holds Annabel "in the highest regard" and that although the Tories lost ground at this election, he believes that they would have "slipped back further without her", and both Tavish Scott & Iain Gray have also praised her. Seems she's appreciated by many folk except those in her own party looking for a scapegoat :rolleyes:

Looks like the choice to replace her will be either Jackson Carlaw or Murdo whotsit (her deputy atm). You're completely right Pat- very little experience on the opposition benches and that is worrying :(

See Christine Graham has put her hat in the ring for the presiding officer

There could be some interesting moments. :lol:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a139092/scots-politician-wants-acdc-honoured.html

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Wonder which forecast is likely to prove the more accurate....

Cost of Council Tax freeze

Quite a contrast, borderlass. According to researchers at the Scottish Parliament Information Centre council tax will cost the Scottish Government £3.15 bn and SNP put the annual cost of the freeze at £560m.

That's a bit worrying.

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Quite a contrast, borderlass. According to researchers at the Scottish Parliament Information Centre council tax will cost the Scottish Government £3.15 bn and SNP put the annual cost of the freeze at £560m.

That's a bit worrying.

Last year it cost £70 million to fund the council tax freeze (that's real cash numbers, not airy fairy scary stories).

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Last year it cost £70 million to fund the council tax freeze (that's real cash numbers, not airy fairy scary stories).

That would seem to provide a good basis for working out the cost, samsc, but doesn't say much for the researchers at Holyrood, who came up with the 'airy fairy scary' figure.

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