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Hi there Rolo (Waving smiley lol)...Danny Browns was just on the south west corner of George Square, which I thought was still Cochrane Street as it became St.Vincent Street...Though I haven't done a "live maps" thingy on it either! lol.

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Hi there Rolo (Waving smiley lol)...Danny Browns was just on the south west corner of George Square, which I thought was still Cochrane Street as it became St.Vincent Street...Though I haven't done a "live maps" thingy on it either! lol.

So, lovely Rhumpy (waving back atcha!), roughly where Greggs is now on the corner of George Square and Queen St?

Hell, I wish I'd known it. Sounds like my kinda place. ;)

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Fab photies, HH.

Rolo, you describe Daly's perfectly. I used to meet my aunties there for tea and fresh cream meringues. The place seemed just sumptuous to me.

The same aunties loved the china department in Trerons - I seem to remember it being a bit further West than Rose Street.

I started working in Glasgow, when I was sixteen, we worked half day on Saturdays and got paid when we stopped at lunchtime. Then a wee gang of us wouldour trot down to Lewis's. We all wore the same dark tan Lentheric makeup and that was the place where you could buy it. We liked trying out the perfumes - the favourite being Estée Lauder Youth Dew - very potent!

We didn't buy our clothes there but, when we could afford it, shopped in Wallis. When we were a bit skint it was C & A. You needed to be in fashion for the Dennistoun Palais. <img src="http://www.glasgowwestend.co.uk/yabbse/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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I was so interested to hear mention of Daly,s department store .It was, in my day, the creme de la creme.I worked as a beautician for Guerlain(a tiny salon on the half landing) and beautified the ladies of glasgow high society. I had trained at Elizabeth Arden,and worked at their Pettigrew and stephens salon, but Guerlain and Daly,s was much grander.Our speciality treatment was the "Garbo Gasseuse spray" named after the famous beauty Greta Garbo, i don,t know exactly what it was meant to do,but for every teatment one had to trundle a gas cylinder into the treatment,room, and spray it on the client.It looked like it came from the trenches of the first world war,and sightly scary,but our ladies loved it, that is until a current picture of miss Garbo appeared in the Glagow Herald,showing the ravages of sun worship,and a disdain of beauty products,her name was discreetly dropped,and so was the gas cylinder(into the dustbins )I think the bomb squad was called.Working for a beauty house had many advantages,hairdressing allowance,all the cosmetics you could carry,a junior you could boss around, and best of all,no clocking in, and tea and lunch were taken in the store restaurant,unlike the other poor cows,who had to use the canteen.god we were hated.For me ,those were the days,drenched in Shalimar,watching the house model sway round the restaurant,and probably doing more harm than good to skins,so made up, it hardly mattered,and as far removed from real life as Mars.Halcyon days!Hope i haven,t bored you to death.

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I was so interested to hear mention of Daly,s department store .It was, in my day, the creme de la creme.I worked as a beautician for Guerlain(a tiny salon on the half landing) and beautified the ladies of glasgow high society. I had trained at Elizabeth Arden,and worked at their Pettigrew and stephens salon, but Guerlain and Daly,s was much grander.Our speciality treatment was the "Garbo Gasseuse spray" named after the famous beauty Greta Garbo, i don,t know exactly what it was meant to do,but for every teatment one had to trundle a gas cylinder into the treatment,room, and spray it on the client.It looked like it came from the trenches of the first world war,and sightly scary,but our ladies loved it, that is until a current picture of miss Garbo appeared in the Glagow Herald,showing the ravages of sun worship,and a disdain of beauty products,her name was discreetly dropped,and so was the gas cylinder(into the dustbins )I think the bomb squad was called.Working for a beauty house had many advantages,hairdressing allowance,all the cosmetics you could carry,a junior you could boss around, and best of all,no clocking in, and tea and lunch were taken in the store restaurant,unlike the other poor cows,who had to use the canteen.god we were hated.For me ,those were the days,drenched in Shalimar,watching the house model sway round the restaurant,and probably doing more harm than good to skins,so made up, it hardly mattered,and as far removed from real life as Mars.Halcyon days!Hope i haven,t bored you to death.

Hi ardengirl,

Welcome to the forum and you most certainly have not bored us to death. Very interesting to get some inside information.

We were more want to hang out down in Lewis' as we saw Daly's are really, really posh but very intriguing. I was pretty thrilled when invited to lunch there - incredible fresh cream meringues.

Isn't it a pity that Sauchiehall Street changed so much?

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<!--quoteo(post=115880:date=Dec 22 2008, 09:00 PM:name=Gangster's Moll)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gangster's Moll @ Dec 22 2008, 09:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=115880"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No disrespect to Nota bu he wouldn't have a clue;-). It was on Ingran Street where the casino is now, across from the side entrance to M+S. My mum used to drag me in every week. Good thread this Rolo. I remember Daly's, Trerons, Arnotts and Simpsons, Lewis's, Goldbergs. Can anyone tell me if Fraser's was ever called by another name?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'd totally forgotten Arnotts WAS in fact cried Arnott and Simpson in earlier days. Likewise Copelands used to be Copeland and Lye as some wise person pointed out earlier... <img src="http://www.glasgowwestend.co.uk/yabbse/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

I can't think of a casino on Ingram St but there is one on Stockwell St opposite side entrance to M&S, Moll, where Tiger Tiger is now?

Your Q about Frasers is actually doing my nut in, because I do seem to recall in the dim and distant it wasn't actually cried Frasers. The whole chain used to be called House of Fraser, if I recall right, and latterly the different stores adopted their own IQ, like the one in Manchester is cried Kendalls for example.

I should probably google but can't be arsed, somebody here'll know the answer... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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I hope this will help.From argyle street, looking up buchanan street,on the left hand side was Frasers, the first store belonging to the then, mr. Hugh Fraser.it was an upper middle class, outfitters, general goods department store.directly opposite,was macdonalds, a deluxe fashion store,and next to it Wylie and Lochead,a very high class furniture and home goods store.These two stores are now combined as the current Frasers.Iworked as a beautician in Macdonalds in the sixties, I thought it the height of glamour,it,s hushed perfumed air,grand staircases,a palace of dreams,was i wrong? The answer is ,no!

I have lived in London most of my life,but return to my beloved Glasgow every year to visit friends and family,i also visit Frasers, now sadly a temple of chavdom,and gaudy overpriced tat,if that is progress, you can keep it.God i sound like a bitter old bag,but it is simply nostalgia for the glorious glasgow of my youth.

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I hope this will help.From argyle street, looking up buchanan street,on the left hand side was Frasers, the first store belonging to the then, mr. Hugh Fraser.it was an upper middle class, outfitters, general goods department store.directly opposite,was macdonalds, a deluxe fashion store,and next to it Wylie and Lochead,a very high class furniture and home goods store.These two stores are now combined as the current Frasers.Iworked as a beautician in Macdonalds in the sixties, I thought it the height of glamour,it,s hushed perfumed air,grand staircases,a palace of dreams,was i wrong? The answer is ,no!

I have lived in London most of my life,but return to my beloved Glasgow every year to visit friends and family,i also visit Frasers, now sadly a temple of chavdom,and gaudy overpriced tat,if that is progress, you can keep it.God i sound like a bitter old bag,but it is simply nostalgia for the glorious glasgow of my youth.

The old department stores were very different, ardengirl. The different wee enclaves they have now with Wallis and such like has always seemed to me a bit daft when you can find the same shop just along the street. Although, Frasers is such a beautiful building that it still holds attractions. Nowadays I like the linen sales. :lol:

Of course, the other beautiful building in Buchanan Street is Princes Square and there was nothing to compete with that in the 60s. Although in that era the big attraction for us young office girls was Lewis' - particularly the record sales department with the wee booths that you could go into to listen to your favourites.

One store I always felt was very stuffy was Arnott & Simpsons.

My aunties, with whom I visited 'town' frequently, just loved Trerons' and we seemed to spend a helluva lot of time looking at tea sets.

I still think Glasgow is fabulous, although, maybe not in the Department Store stakes, still we've got John Lewis' - where else can you buy such wonderful buttons? :lol:

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now sadly a temple of chavdom,and gaudy overpriced tat,if that is progress, you can keep it

This statement doesn't half remind me of someone :lol:

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This statement doesn't half remind me of someone :lol:

Yeah, and she's right an all!

In the name of the wee man....I'm sitting here worrying which compo lawyer's gonna be on to us next; the one that represents Frasers or the one that represents Chavs. Or possibly both simultaneously. :mellow:

<eeek> :lol::D :D

I liked Pettigrew and Stephens myself. And Dalys, where ai had a Saturday job sometime in the last century. :D

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Here we go my favourite subject and memories and being a proud Weegie :D

I loved the Dept stores and getting dressed up and going into town on a Saturday to get a new outfit and maybe a wee toy from Woolworths in Sauchiehall Street cause the Argyle Street one was too busy.

People would get all togged up to go into town. Wee ladies sitting on the bus with fancy hats matching gloves and discreet jewellry - brooches of insects etc :D

I remember more than once sitting on a bus and the woman in front having one of those horrible fur stoles with an animals head hanging from it. I'd sit mesmerised looking at it's eyeballs. :D at least she was tidy :lol: not a cheap jogging pant or muffin top in sight.

Sauchiehall St was a lot better in the 60's I think it's a sad dull place now from BHS (horrible 60's) upwards.

Watt Brothers - still there

Reid and Todd - fancy leather goods - bags/suitcases - I mean :)

Daly's - woman up our close worked in the glove dept - working in only one dept specialising in gloves, probably for her whole life.She went to work every morning immaculately dressed and manicured.

Arnott's Sauchiehall St - I worked in there on a Saturday circa 1973 still had the Are you Being Served set up too in layout and shelves where you laid out the items on the counter with a big flourish to show the customer :lol:

Pettigrews was the very first big store to have a boutique, in the basement,I remember this because everyone rushed to see it.

Treron's was beautiful all thick carpets, smell of beeswax polish and tartan. I used to dog school (Garnethill) and wander around the shops.

Dallas's up in the old Cowcaddens area - my Grannies favourite - wooden floors/ money tubes going around the ceiling and the same friendly people who worked there for probably all their lives.

God I hate Tesco/Asda :mellow:

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Here we go my favourite subject and memories and being a proud Weegie :D

I loved the Dept stores and getting dressed up and going into town on a Saturday to get a new outfit and maybe a wee toy from Woolworths in Sauchiehall Street cause the Argyle Street one was too busy.

People would get all togged up to go into town. Wee ladies sitting on the bus with fancy hats matching gloves and discreet jewellry - brooches of insects etc :D

I remember more than once sitting on a bus and the woman in front having one of those horrible fur stoles with an animals head hanging from it. I'd sit mesmerised looking at it's eyeballs. :D at least she was tidy :lol: not a cheap jogging pant or muffin top in sight.

Sauchiehall St was a lot better in the 60's I think it's a sad dull place now from BHS (horrible 60's) upwards.

Watt Brothers - still there

Reid and Todd - fancy leather goods - bags/suitcases - I mean :)

Daly's - woman up our close worked in the glove dept - working in only one dept specialising in gloves, probably for her whole life.She went to work every morning immaculately dressed and manicured.

Arnott's Sauchiehall St - I worked in there on a Saturday circa 1973 still had the Are you Being Served set up too in layout and shelves where you laid out the items on the counter with a big flourish to show the customer :lol:

Pettigrews was the very first big store to have a boutique, in the basement,I remember this because everyone rushed to see it.

Treron's was beautiful all thick carpets, smell of beeswax polish and tartan. I used to dog school (Garnethill) and wander around the shops.

Dallas's up in the old Cowcaddens area - my Grannies favourite - wooden floors/ money tubes going around the ceiling and the same friendly people who worked there for probably all their lives.

God I hate Tesco/Asda :mellow:

Lots of memories there, IonaW. The poshness and grandeur have definitely departed.

I remember being mesmerised by the the plaster Mannequins standing on each landing and couldn't resist touching them. I got into terrible trouble from my aunties once when I pulled an arm off.

Watt Brothers is a total mish mash now. Great bargains but not very enticing.

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Remember being taken to see Santa in Lewiss Dept. Store, you allways had to queue up about 4/5 flights of marble stairs to see him.

I worked in Arnotts Sauchiehall Street, in the early 1970s, they had a boutique called 'The Underground', in the basement, it had a record store, Cecil Gee who I worked for,a coffee shop and another couple of franchise, it was quite a cool place to be at that time.

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Remember being taken to see Santa in Lewiss Dept. Store, you allways had to queue up about 4/5 flights of marble stairs to see him.

I worked in Arnotts Sauchiehall Street, in the early 1970s, they had a boutique called The Underfround, in the basement, it had a record store, Cecil Gee who I worked for, and another couple of franchise, it was quite a cool place to be at that time.

I think Santa had a fairly fancy grotto in Lewis' and I remember the queues but I was too big by that time to go sitting on his knee. :lol:

Arnotts definiely went downhill when it moved to Argyle Street, Maggs. I've been trying to remember the store with Miss Selfridge, before they had their own shop in town. I think it was in Lewis'.

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Ach. Greet, what a great post, Iona. Sounds like you, Maggs and I all had Saturday jobs in the stores about the same time, 1973-4. I was in 'Boutique' at Dalys, having been moved from Ladies Dresses for laughing out loud at a certain very wealthy, snotty madam of a customer whose name was Mrs Duda.

Love the bit about people getting dressed up to go to town, we sure did as kids in the 60s--it was an occasion. I remember being enthralled as a young girl by the live catwalk fashion show in Pettigrew's, where the ladies all had afternoon tea, the waitresses fully coiffed and made-up, immaculate in black with white lace-trimmed pinnies and what looked like a folded doily kirby'd onto their heads-- and there was a guy in full evening dress playing piano. It felt like Hollywood or something :(

They had money-tubes at Copelands in Sauchiehall St as well, I remember being mildly freaked out by them in the school uniform department. :D When being fitted for a skirt, you had to kneel on the floor then the measuring tape came out--one inch above the knee was the regulation hemlength.

You still see the occasional lady dressed to 'go out' but mostly it's loud, bolshie, mockit grannies with attitude, wearing mismatched velour tracksuits and god awful trainers with maroon puffa coats on top. Class! :rolleyes:

My mother still has a couple of inherited fox furs in the wardrobe (next to the trainers of course)--I was fascinated by them as a child, see the peg bit at the jaw that clipped the sides together---and the wee beady glass eyes. EEEEEK! I'm of a mind to look them out and start a whole new scary fashion :unsure:

Actually, I'm gonna. :D

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God Rolo you'd be lynched now if you walked down the street wearing one of them

Speaking of fur I had a mink coat from an old auntie that I wore with ripped flares whilst posing down the Byres Rd. I didn't like the collar so I ripped it giving the desired hippie/grunge effect -the said auntie would have keeled over

Ps I see I have been promoted to Staying for Dinner :rolleyes:

Could I have something really cordon bleu that takes hours to prepare with only the freshest of ingredients :unsure:

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God Rolo you'd be lynched now if you walked down the street wearing one of them

Speaking of fur I had a mink coat from an old auntie that I wore with ripped flares whilst posing down the Byres Rd. I didn't like the collar so I ripped it giving the desired hippie/grunge effect -the said auntie would have keeled over

Sounds pretty hip and cool, IonaW.

Ps I see I have been promoted to Staying for Dinner :rolleyes:

Could I have something really cordon bleu that takes hours to prepare with only the freshest of ingredients :unsure:

It'll be ready at 6 p.m. this evening (also vegetarian option just in case). :(

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It'll be ready at 6 p.m. this evening (also vegetarian option just in case). ;)

Thanks Pat the meal was gorgeous and apologies for getting blootered and breaking the crystal wine glasses and being sick outside and oh telling you what I thought of everybody on the Board for about 8 hours.:lol:

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This kind of stuff is the best of this site. Like Maggs I too queued on the stairs. My favourite dept. store has to be Goldbergs, something astonishing on every floor. I remember the ground floor had it's own goldfish pond, every other floor had some type of mechanical display, was this just at christmas?

One of the two above mentioned stores (Lewis's I think, had an Ali Babba (is it ok to say Ali Babba on here? :lol:) display that consisted of row upon row of large oil jars from which the '40 thieves' would emerge & submerge by means of mechanical magic. Strange thing is, you never went with your mother (to busy keeping house & looking after the younger siblings I suppose) it was always with your granny and/or aunties.

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This kind of stuff is the best of this site. Like Maggs I too queued on the stairs. My favourite dept. store has to be Goldbergs, something astonishing on every floor. I remember the ground floor had it's own goldfish pond, every other floor had some type of mechanical display, was this just at christmas?

One of the two above mentioned stores (Lewis's I think, had an Ali Babba (is it ok to say Ali Babba on here? :lol:) display that consisted of row upon row of large oil jars from which the '40 thieves' would emerge & submerge by means of mechanical magic. Strange thing is, you never went with your mother (to busy keeping house & looking after the younger siblings I suppose) it was always with your granny and/or aunties.

I had forgotten all about Goldbergs, HH. I remember when I first went their with a friend, whose mum had a 'card', thinking that they must be a bit superior to us. I hadn't yet been introduced to credit. ;)

Funny you saying that about the aunties - I cannot recollect ever going to the shops with my mum as a child.

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Thanks Pat the meal was gorgeous and apologies for getting blootered and breaking the crystal wine glasses and being sick outside and oh telling you what I thought of everybody on the Board for about 8 hours.:lol:

Wouldn't have been so bad, Iona, but the glasses were borrowed, my neighbours complained about the racket and have all fallen out with me and the taxi company who took you home have closed my account. Can you explain what happened in the taxi?

I've got one of your earrings, two letters that must have fallen out of your bag, your jacket and your brolly.

p.s. I enjoyed the gossip ;) - come back anytime.

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My Mother-in-law had an account in Gordon Brothers. Got a lotta stuff there.

Used to have lunch in Cranstons in Gordon Street or Muirheads on a Tuesday. They used to have a fashion parade & we could ogle the models.

Remember a group of us standing round a shop window, Pettgrews I think, when a poor wee lassie was hoovering it out. We kept on trying to help by pointing out bits she had missed. By the time we moved on quite a lot of people were trying to see what we were watching, Poor kid she was bright red.

I got my first suit in Copelands in Sauchiehall Street. Bought Van Heusen shirts there. Shoes from Saxones. Last car, Hilman minx station wagon, from Arnold Clark.

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PS mrs Oz wants to know whats the "best" shop now used to be Forsyths.

Cheeky wee things embarrassing the lassie doing her hoovering. :lol:

Mrs Oz might enjoy John Lewis in Buchanan Gallery. Very nice for afternoon tea and nice shop to browse in. I like Frasers' linen department and pretty good designer section but too pricey. The Department Stores have had their heyday but we have got Princes SquarePrinces Square.

Oz did you ever buy an Arthur Black shirt? Or any of you other guys?

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Cheeky wee things embarrassing the lassie doing her hoovering. :lol:

Oz did you ever buy an Arthur Black shirt? Or any of you other guys?

Naw just Van Heusen

I bought my first UK car a TR3 (See me all Fur coat & nae Knickers) from Stewarts at Dunbreck?? near Dumbarton was a great bird catcher but nae use as a shagginwagin. Gear lever got in the way & roof was too low but there again you have to make sacrifices for the image.

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