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Corbyn won with healthy mandate. No surprise really. What now?  At least they've outlined their plans – i like the sound of that £10 per hour minimum wage.  Meanwhile May's playing her cards very close to her chest. 

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I'd like to see  a socialist party that serves all parts of the UK but Labour if they could get passed the infighting and bullying. 

On the day of conference, when McDonnell's announcement of the £10 minimum wage should have been the  news story, it was quickly overshadowed by the row over the shadow defence minister's, speech being edited by one of Corbyn's aides, despite being Labour Party policy. .  ... And then up pops Derek Hatton at the Labour Party conference.  ...Expelled in the 80s for being in breach of party rules and claiming that Militant was a legitimate Marxist tendency within the Labour Party, he claims he is no longer a Trotskyite.   You have to worry when the Labour Party starts to seem like an attractive to ex members of Militant.  ...Intimating that he might challenge Angela Eagle for her seat Liverpool seat, too.  Kinnock worked hard to expel Militant from the Labour Party, you get the feeling that Corbyn and McDonnell would be inviting their old comrade in for a sing song, with the Red Flag being the preferred song of choice.

It wil be interested to see what happens in the weeks after conference and what effect Corbyn's "clean slate" has on forming his shadow cabinet. It feels as though the Labour Party has a long way to go ...

You might think May is clueless but she'll run circles around Lablour unless they get their act together...

 

 

 

 

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There's a bit of a mess but the numbers continue to grow.  I reckon that means support.  They say that the main support for Corbyn comes from the middle classes. 

It is a pity those very positive policies had less exposure than the many allegations.  I've got to admit that I prefer the Red Flag to God Save the Queen. 

I agree that they certainly have a long way to go but I'm happy at the proposals being made putting growth and equality at the forefront.

I don't think May is clueless but I think she is living in a fantasy if she believes she is unaccountable and at the moment that's what it looks like. 

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Labour has long been the party of the middle class, particularly in London. That's why UKIP is gaining traction with the working class, in my opiniion.

The editing out of Clive Owen's speech on Trident was more than an allegation and works directly against Labour policy, whether you agree with it or not.  John McDonnell admitted as much on Newsnight. 

The Tories must be delighted ...

 

 

 

 

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I wasn't particularly thinking of Clive Lewis. Who, when interviewed, said he was perfectly happy and that collaboration wasn't unusual re: speeches.  I'm sure, nonetheless, he must have got a bit of a shock.  Personally I am delighted about anything or anyone who is seen to speak out against Trident.

Now shock horror that Corbyn says he wouldn't press the button. No shock horror for the supporters of mass murder of civilians then? What a strange world. 

Anyway I was thinking more in general terms of the continued and relentless bashing of Corbyn supporters – does anyone really believe that they are all fanatics?  Hardly.

Labour was traditionally the party of the Working Class.  To my mind many of the policies Corbyn and his party are putting forward would be of major benefit to the working class, many of whom supported Labour before they switched to UKIP, which let's face it has not been around for that long. 

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As the SNP has shown, big parties come from small beginnings and UKIP will continue to attract people while Labour continues to tear itself apart.

You don't need to look to the media for Corbyn's detractors; his deputy leader's speech blew him out the water.

Clive Lewis is back on message after being called to the Leader's office following his speech - and allegedly punching a wall and throwing his phone.  He didn't sound at all convincing.

Falkner and Abbot ducking questions about their own choice of private education their children, while opposing the Tories on grammer schools - messy.

Chakrabati or rather Baroness Chakrabati, wearing her egalitarian credentials a bit more loosely these day after accepting a peerage from Cameron put forward by Corbyn, no less - tricky.

I like a lot of what Corbyn stands for and  I don't think there are many out of step in the Labour Party on the wish to see multi lateral disarmament but stating personal principles before the responsibiliites of the office he seeks to hold is unaccptable. 

 

 

 

 

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Phenomenal speech from Corbyn and looking much more the part. I didn't realise Labour had now the largest membership of any political party in Europe. There's a confidence builder.  

He spoke for an hour and was rather inspirational.  

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Sadiq Khan didn't look too happy at Corbyn claiming the London Mayoral success ...

Ms Dugdall and her Welsh counterpart must be ecstatic at winning places on the NEC, despite opposition from Corbyn - a win for the centralists.

10 big pledges.  Not sure on the details but let's see if he can unite the party around these pledges and elect a shadow cabinet.  I would so love to have faith in the Labour Party again.  I am not sure what Corbyn's "Socialism for the 21st century" looks like but I can buy into  "A fairer Britain in a peaceful world."  Let's see if he can deliver ...

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Yes, Khan's face was tripping him. Even when the applause was all aimed his way.

I saw the Mayor of Bristol being interviewed the other day. Marvin Rees is pretty charismatic.

Here's the panel. What Corbyn got right and where he wasn't so hot: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/28/jeremy-corbyn-speech-labour-party-conference-panel-views?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=The+Best+of+CiF+base&utm_term=192452&subid=4958480&CMP=ema_1364

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I think Poly Toynbee got it spot on.  Corbyn was talking to the converted and had nothing to win back disaffected Labour voters...  Still, probably the most interesting Labour conference in years ...

I do wonder how Corbyn would lead with some decent people around him.  I can't think that anyone is in any doubt that McDonnell is the real power behind the Labour leadership ...

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15 minutes ago, harper said:

The best speech of the conference and Labour PM in waiting ...  Tom Watson.

http://www.labour.org.uk/

Unperturbed by the heckler but cheap shot at the bid for unity. I didn't like that not at all so didn't listen to the rest. I don't care for him. Very unappealing.

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Some judged Watson as a unifying stalwart which others judged him mnaipulative and divisive.  I see him as being incredible able and true Labour through and throuh.  I think he is the one to watch ...

Wee edit function not working .... throws in a "g".

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Corbyn planning a charm offensive in Scotland. He already started with his Jimmy Reid lecture.

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"The whole message of my lecture was how Jimmy Reid reached out to people in his life as a committed Socialist. He was in various parties the Communist Party and the Labour Party. I think we can learn from great Scottish men like Jimmy Reid and what he did.

"My lecture tonight was about the optimism he brought to the Clyde at that time and that legacy is the Scottish shipyard."

Citing the reasons why he viewed independence supporters as part of a progressive movement for change, he talked about their "support for progressive policies of investment in housing, better employment rights, and an end to blacklisting workers who stood up and represented others in the trade unions”.

Corbyn, however, restated his opposition to independence, but said he hoped left-leaning supporters of the Yes campaign would be tempted to back Labour following the party’s UK leadership campaign that saw him re-elected by a greater margin than a year go.

He said: "I hope that they recognise that in the Labour Party we have had this enormous debate, with 600,000 people involved across the whole of the UK. It’s been a fascinating experience and brought a lot of people together, as well as young people who have never been involved in politics before.

"In Scotland as well as all parts of the UK, people who were involved in various kinds of progressive trade unions and politics in the past have come back.”

The Labour leader and his closest ally John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, are planning to hold a Scottish summit in the coming months focussing on a Corbyn-led government's specific economic and jobs policy for Scotland.

Corbyn made his overtures to independence supporters as he highlighted a plan to launch a Scottish investment bank aimed at creating full employment that would be devolved to Holyrood."  The Herald, 9 October. (No point in putting link as The Herald doesn't allow you to read unless you pay or register)

I think no matter how much people in Scotland may feel drawn to Corbyn and his policy ideas that there is another hurdle in the form of Labour at Holyrood.

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