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I know he didn't say women only trains... he was talking about women only train carriages, as I said...?  Either way, it hasn't gone down well - with a lot of women, funnily enough.  ....And as the mother of a lovely son, I don't want to see my son demonised on account of his gender, TYVM.  I am pro women but not anti men.  Tackle sexism and violence towards women but not by corralling them into separate carriages and let our good men be part of tackling the issues involved..... 

And reflecting on the issue of coal.... yes, I see your point.

 

 

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Think we import just about everything. Piece of nonsense.

Agree on the tuition fees. I feel so sorry for the students in England.

 

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All of the candidates agree on one thing 'united in the belief that Prime Minister David Cameron was not doing enough to respond to the mounting [refugee] crisis, but failed to agree on the number of refugees the country should accept.'

Liz Kendall is 'ashamed' by the lack of support that has been forthcoming and referred to Cameron as 'heartless'

The latest poll by Sky puts Corbyn as runaway success  "A Sky News poll following the final debate in the election saw Mr Corbyn storming ahead with more than 80.7 per cent of the vote.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leadership-jeremy-corbyn-looks-set-to-secure-landslide-victory-after-securing-80-per-cent-in-polls-following-final-debate-10485428.html

 

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Not long now, folks. Pretty shabby Panorama programme on Corbyn.  If he succeeds it will be in the face of extensive media assassination attempts. Reminds me of the Referendum coverage.

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Aye, The votes are in:
Corbyn over 59.5% of the vote.
Andy Burnham 80462 Yvette Cooper 71728 Liz Kendall 18,850 Jeremy Corbyn 251000. 

It will be good to hear the problems with 'grotesque inequality' raised in Westminster.  Good change

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                          Members     Registered Supporters      Affiliated Supporters     Total Percentage


BURNHAM, Andy 55,698            6,160                          18,604                        80,462 19.0% 
COOPER, Yvette 54,470             8,415                            9,043                         71,928 17.0% 
CORBYN, Jeremy 121,751        88,449                          41,217                       251,417 59.5% 
KENDALL, Liz 13,601                 2,574                            2,682                         18,857 4.5% 

Corbyn wins on every count.  How long until Liz Kendall joins the tories 


 

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A bit of an exodus is in motion: "

The veteran left-wing MP won a landslide victory in the party's leadership race with almost 60% of the vote - trouncing mainstream rivals Andy Burnham, Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall.

But the new leader suffered a setback soon after his win as several senior Labour figures, including Ms Cooper and Ms Kendall, said they will not serve on Labour's frontbench.

Shadow chancellor Chris Leslie and shadow education secretary Tristram Hunt also indicated they would go to the backbenches.

Shadow communities secretary Emma Reynolds and shadow health minister Jamie Reed quit shortly after Mr Corbyn's triumph.

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Video: Exodus After Corbyn's Victory

Rachel Reeves, the shadow work and pensions secretary, said when she returns from maternity leave she would go to the backbenches.'

Chukka Umuna seems to be hanging around.

Will be interesting to see th Shadow Cabinet.   http://news.sky.com/story/1551400/corbyn-seeks-unity-amid-frontbench-exodus

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He's getting pelters on the News for having a 'men only cabinet' – Dianne Abbott, Angela Eagle, Seema Malhotra and quite a few others appear not to have been noticed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34241395

Interesting listening to Polly Toynbee talk of the voice of the media coming to us through three right wing owners of 85% of the national press.

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I wonder what impact Corbyn's leadership will have on SNP membership?

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I think SNP and Corbyn have some things in common. Particularly his anti nuclear position and anti-austerity. I hope that together they will provide strong opposition in house of commons but I do not think Corbyn is a supporter of Independence. Some socialist SNP supporters may be tempted back to Labour. We will have to wait and see.

 

 

 

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Latest UK voting intention opinion polls have a Corbyn led labour party in the lead (both ICM and YouGov)

 

Some doing against some of the vilest media behaviours and not helped by treacherous Blairites 

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Corbyn spoke up very well the other day when responding to the budget – and he is right – the Tories have failed to meet their own targets and they have certainly failed to address inequality.  It's very difficult here in Scotland to understand just who are the people who vote for them as they are the subject of wholescale scorn.

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Sadly, the Tories being wrong choice doesn't necessarily make Corbyn the right one in a lot of people's eyes; being nice and decent doesn't mean that you are competent to run the country ...

 

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On 15/09/2015 at 4:48 PM, rory said:

I think SNP and Corbyn have some things in common. Particularly his anti nuclear position and anti-austerity. I hope that together they will provide strong opposition in house of commons but I do not think Corbyn is a supporter of Independence. Some socialist SNP supporters may be tempted back to Labour. We will have to wait and see.

I can't think of anyone in their right mind who could be described as pro-nuclear, well, apart from North Korea.  I think it is a matter of time and process.  At the end of the day, the UK is a democracy and the majority opinion will hold sway, as it did in the Scottish referendum.  The people who lost the YES vote in Scotland feel dumped with Westminster.  I/we all feel dumped with the Tories and not a single viable alternative on the horizon in England.  Sadly, the Tories will prevail unless Labour gets real and dumps Corbyn.  The unions might back him.  The membership might back him but business will not back him and without business investment and jobs we are all stuffed.

Sadly, we live in troubled times, and a lot of it of our own doing.  I wonder what the outcome would be if there was a referendum to get rid of Trident ...

 

 

 

 

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I think they should be using the money that is spent on Trident to tackle the real problems of terrorists.

I was amazed that Corbyn was voted as leader of the Labour party. The type of investment that the Tories attract does not seem to encourage production or growth and that is what both Corbyn and Nicola Sturgeon have recognised as being what is needed.

 

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