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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:18 PM

Ah know ye kin google, jist dae that and you'll find oot plenty


Can I find him on the page you just Googled for Scottish writers?

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:19 PM

And Carol Ann Duffy.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:52 PM

Can I find him on the page you just Googled for Scottish writers?


He's not a writer he's a poet (was as he's no pan breid)

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:54 PM

I said First 11 not 6 and some reserves and the C team!
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.............in your opinyin..................which I must regretfully say disnae haud much wattur aroon here :lol: :D :P

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 09:56 PM

.............in your opinyin..................which I must regretfully say disnae haud much wattur aroon here :lol: :angry: :P



Why is that then?
Challenge my opinion by all means but some facts, some attempt at informed argument might prove helpful...or no?

Anyway, I suppose I should be grateful that you have actually posted a post on here that doesn't include your usual repertoire of: SCUM, scumbag, bawbag, liars... and other such pithy gems!
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 04:38 AM

I said First 11 not 6 and some reserves and the C team!
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oh dear me, its funny how old queen comments can come back and bite you :D :lol:
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 07:24 AM

Why is that then?
Challenge my opinion by all means but some facts, some attempt at informed argument might prove helpful...or no?

Anyway, I suppose I should be grateful that you have actually posted a post on here that doesn't include your usual repertoire of: SCUM, scumbag, bawbag, liars... and other such pithy gems!
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If ra cap fits..........................................and this is a thred aboot me askin furr info on a poem, not wantin info on or aboot whit was wance ra labur perty who are indeed SCUM nowadays, bawbag refers taeGordon Broon SCUM-meister in chief

BNoo if ye huv any info onra poem a requested please post it, otherwise av merr tae dae wae ma time than read yer inane drivel aboot sumthin ye patently huv nae knowledge aboot

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 10:44 AM

John Buchan
Dorothy Dunnett

Neil Gunn
George MacDonald Fraser
Robert Louis Stevenson
Sir Walter Scott
F Marian McNeill
Finlay J. Macdonald
Sir Compton Mackenzie
Lewis Grassic Gibbon
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Kenneth Graham
James Herriot
James Boswell
j.m. Barrie


Therz 13 tae be goin on way..................................... :D


Ye forgot Alistair Gray and James Kelman ya muppet!!

And how about:

George Douglas Brown
A.J Cronin
Janice Galloway
AL Kennedy

And of course, don't forget the more recent work of Ian Banks, Ian Rankin, Irvine Welsh and, Ali Smith, Alexander McCall Smith & Louise Welsh. And since Tam's no here to mention her, I will, Denise Mina.

KG, I can't believe you don't rate nota's list. Go on then, give us your First 11, instead of posturing, name names! :angry:
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 11:15 AM

I'll check the availability of Edwin Morgan's work today and get back to you Nota.

As for Scottish poets...

Hugh MacDiarmid
Nan Shepherd
William Soutar

Just to get you started.
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 11:18 AM

John Buchan
Dorothy Dunnett

Neil Gunn
George MacDonald Fraser
Robert Louis Stevenson
Sir Walter Scott
F Marian McNeill
Finlay J. Macdonald
Sir Compton Mackenzie
Lewis Grassic Gibbon
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Kenneth Graham
James Herriot
James Boswell
j.m. Barrie


Therz 13 tae be goin on way..................................... :angry:


Just made me wonder, Nota. Do lists of favourites not alter over time? Does the list just get longer or is some rearrangment required?
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 12:02 PM

Just made me wonder, Nota. Do lists of favourites not alter over time? Does the list just get longer or is some rearrangment required?


It's no favourites we're after here though Pat. We've been told, basically, that Scottish writers are rubbish, and challenged to produce names of good ones. Fairly easy challenge if ye ask me! :angry:
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 12:18 PM

Ye forgot Alistair Gray and James Kelman ya muppet!!

And how about:

George Douglas Brown
A.J Cronin
Janice Galloway
AL Kennedy

And of course, don't forget the more recent work of Ian Banks, Ian Rankin, Irvine Welsh and, Ali Smith, Alexander McCall Smith & Louise Welsh. And since Tam's no here to mention her, I will, Denise Mina.

KG, I can't believe you don't rate nota's list. Go on then, give us your First 11, instead of posturing, name names! :angry:


Sorry Lynnski, the names came aff ra tap of ma heid (well maist of them, hudtae ask sumwan aboot tae supply me wae 3 merr.

The wans above ur mainly "classics" didnae bother wae the merr modern wans otherwise Ms Spark of Jean Brodie fame woulduv been in there tae

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 12:36 PM

Sorry Lynnski, the names came aff ra tap of ma heid (well maist of them, hudtae ask sumwan aboot tae supply me wae 3 merr.

The wans above ur mainly "classics" didnae bother wae the merr modern wans otherwise Ms Spark of Jean Brodie fame woulduv been in there tae


James Herriott gets in as a 'classic' but Muriel Spark (born little more than a year yater and who did most of her work at the same time as Herriott) doesn't ?????????????

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 12:40 PM

oh dear me, its funny how old queen comments can come back and bite you :D :lol:



:angry: Is there a translator in the house?

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 01:19 PM

It's no favourites we're after here though Pat. We've been told, basically, that Scottish writers are rubbish, and challenged to produce names of good ones. Fairly easy challenge if ye ask me! :angry:


Actually if you care to read the thread properly you would see that I did not say Scottish writers were rubbish in any way, shape or form.
The conversation was originally about poetry, I asked could you (Scots) field a first 11 of poets.
It then lead on to writers because not one came through with a list of 11 world class Scottish poets, there was a list of writersinstead.
You have misrepresented me completely.
What is it with you mods, you think you see meanings lurking in shadows everywhere...

Anyway.
Here are some Irish writers, some of them are poets too but all can be classed as "writers" as I believe all have 'written' something in their time.
I have restricted my list to ones that I think everyone will probably know and or read.
:D



C.S. Lewis (natch!)
Sean O' Casey
Samuel Beckett
JP Donleavy
Seamus Heaney
Patrick Kavanagh
Bernard MacLaverty (for a local touch!)
Bram Stoker
James Joyce
Oscar Wilde
Flann O' Brien
Richard Brinsley Sheridan
Jonathan Swift
WB Yeats
Oliver Goldsmith
Walter Macken
Frank O' Connor
Roddy Doyle
Brendan Behan

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 01:53 PM

Actually if you care to read the thread properly you would see that I did not say Scottish writers were rubbish in any way, shape or form.
The conversation was originally about poetry, I asked could you (Scots) field a first 11 of poets.
It then lead on to writers because not one came through with a list of 11 world class Scottish poets, there was a list of writersinstead.
You have misrepresented me completely.
What is it with you mods, you think you see meanings lurking in shadows everywhere...

Anyway.
Here are some Irish writers, some of them are poets too but all can be classed as "writers" as I believe all have 'written' something in their time.
I have restricted my list to ones that I think everyone will probably know and or read.
:D



C.S. Lewis (natch!)
Sean O' Casey
Samuel Beckett
JP Donleavy
Seamus Heaney
Patrick Kavanagh
Bernard MacLaverty (for a local touch!)
Bram Stoker
James Joyce
Oscar Wilde
Flann O' Brien
Richard Brinsley Sheridan
Jonathan Swift
WB Yeats
Oliver Goldsmith
Walter Macken
Frank O' Connor
Roddy Doyle
Brendan Behan


Lot of time for Bernard MacLaverty and love some of Joyce's stuff - my favourite is the short story 'The Dead'
I think I would have to count Jennifer Johnston among my favourite Irish writers.
I can't be bothered with Macken.

I really like Yeats and my pals' poems - Aidan McEoin and Nina Quigley.

One I like best by Yeats is Broken Dreams - I didn't know whether to be flattered or upset when my hairdresser quoted it to me recently. :angry:
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 03:23 PM

C.S. Lewis (natch!)
Sean O' Casey
Samuel Beckett
JP Donleavy
Seamus Heaney
Patrick Kavanagh
Bernard MacLaverty (for a local touch!)
Bram Stoker
James Joyce
Oscar Wilde
Flann O' Brien
Richard Brinsley Sheridan
Jonathan Swift
WB Yeats
Oliver Goldsmith
Walter Macken
Frank O' Connor
Roddy Doyle
Brendan Behan


KG, surprised that Synge and Dominic Behan didn't make your list.

As for Scotland I'll raise you

Robert Tannahill
Robert Ferguson
Hamish Henderson
Freddy Anderson

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 04:29 PM

KG, surprised that Synge and Dominic Behan didn't make your list.

As for Scotland I'll raise you

Robert Tannahill
Robert Ferguson
Hamish Henderson
Freddy Anderson



Oer, I should be shot for not remebering them. 1) Because Dominic actually taught at my old Art School.
2) A while back me and some mates sat through an entire day's worth of Synge plays performed one after another in Edinburgh!
It was something like 10 hours worth.

And probably 3) The only one I've heard of on your list is Tannahill.
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 05:17 PM

KG, surprised that Synge and Dominic Behan didn't make your list.

As for Scotland I'll raise you

Robert Tannahill
Robert Ferguson
Hamish Henderson
Freddy Anderson


Robert FergusSon

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 07:23 PM

Actually if you care to read the thread properly you would see that I did not say Scottish writers were rubbish in any way, shape or form.
The conversation was originally about poetry, I asked could you (Scots) field a first 11 of poets.
It then lead on to writers because not one came through with a list of 11 world class Scottish poets, there was a list of writersinstead.

You have misrepresented me completely.
What is it with you mods, you think you see meanings lurking in shadows everywhere...

Anyway.
Here are some Irish writers, some of them are poets too but all can be classed as "writers" as I believe all have 'written' something in their time.
I have restricted my list to ones that I think everyone will probably know and or read.
;)



C.S. Lewis (natch!)
Sean O' Casey
Samuel Beckett
JP Donleavy
Seamus Heaney
Patrick Kavanagh
Bernard MacLaverty (for a local touch!)
Bram Stoker
James Joyce
Oscar Wilde
Flann O' Brien
Richard Brinsley Sheridan
Jonathan Swift
WB Yeats
Oliver Goldsmith
Walter Macken
Frank O' Connor
Roddy Doyle
Brendan Behan


My bold, obviously...

So is this topic to be about authors or poets then? You seem to be contradicting yourself here! :lol:

As for misrepresentation...I just (adopts best Roy Walker accent) say what I see!
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