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Do the teachers not lose their jobs, peony? I think they would be out on their neck - no matter their gender. They are in a position of trust and this sort of behaviour is also illegal so they would be hauled through the courts.

Yes, they lose their jobs and are banned from teaching ever again, but their sentences are not as long. They need to be treated just as harshly as the male teachers, I believe.

Also they appear to be viewed (by society) as just kind of wacky and kind of weird. Male teachers who do the same thing are viewed as hideous monsters. I think they are both hideous monsters.

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Peony:

From age twelve, or so, every boy who was part of my circle of friends would have loved to have been seduced by a female teacher; i mind one boy thit ustae fantasize aboot the female gym teacher at Tom Hood secondary and he wasnae alone.

tam

PS I remember the case of a few years back when the female teacher served some time and was given parole. A stipulation was that she not see the boy, early teens am thinking, which she/they violated. She went back tae gaol and when her sentence was served the lad was waiting for her.

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Tam, I think it is much more about a betrayal of trust and of preying on those who should be protected. I understand that adolescent boys might fantasize about some adult approaching them, but that is not same as one actually doing it. I think one woman met a young canadian boy on line and convinced him to run away from home with her. She brought him to the Us. He was maybe thirteen. It's predator behavior.

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Peony:

I cannae help but agree with what you wrote but am no sure aboot gaol, though every case is different. A woman convincing a thirteen year auld tae run awa seems a lot mair serious than the sexual encounters that I have read aboot. Anither thing wid be the level of maturity, ah mean ahm telt i didnae mature until my forties, if ever.

There was a case, a few years ago, thit concerned a female Canadian teacher in England, cannae mind the details but deportation was mentioned, though am thinking the ptb took awa her teaching license.

i know that it disnae seem fair but generally the perception is totally different when gender enters the picture and am no sure that i could treat a woman as harshly as a man, in MAIST cases.

tam

mibee why am no a judge

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Not to change the subjest,

but, it would be remiss if i did not mention the Amercan Junior hockey team did win the gold at the last world championship. The coach said that he had watched the Canadians win for x number of years in a row and had modelled his team on the kind of grit that the Canadians brought to the tournament.........he could have added that some of his boys were NHL ready skaters...they could fly and were a treat tae watch.

tam

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Praise where praise is due, Tam. Canadians good naturedly take many jabs from comedians here, but you all are admired for many reasons. I have never forgotten that Canada offered asylum to those Americans seeking to avoid becoming cannon fodder during Viet Nam and the brave help given to Americans when the embassy in Tehran was seized. Ya'll are pretty good neighbors. I think it is worth noting that we have had such a long and peaceful border between us for so long.

I'm sure that Minnesotans knew about the hockey, but I've never paid much attention to it. I do admire curling, though. It's very strange that Houston has an ice hockey team.

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On neighbours. I was at Mall this morning & a bloke ahead of me on escalator had a black tee shirt which had printed on back :

"I only support 2 teams NewZealand and anyone playing against Australia"

I dont think many countries would show enough tolerance for some one to be able wear that kind of tee shirt in complete safety.

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The Howes:

Geordie, Marty and Mark played for the Aeros when they were in a league which was supposed to be competition for the NHL And Brian Leetch, the best defenceman ever produced by the US, was actually born in Texas. His family moved to one of the New England states when he was quite young. His last five or six years in the NHL saw him move to a few teams; every young defenseman became a better player because of him....nae idea what he is doing now but he should be coaching someplace.

tam

Chelios a very close second.

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Rolo,

There is certainly a link between health problems and alcohol abuse - this doesn't relate only to alcoholics. Certainly this may be the group developing illnesses such as cirrhosis. However, the relationship between drunkeness and health costs can be seen in many forms. There are many traffic fatalities related to overindulgence in alcohol and unlikely that all of these are the result of alcoholism. Alcohol abuse also results in violence, including violence in the home and this cannot simply be pinned on people with alcoholism.

Also most youngsters getting blootered are not alcoholics - at least not yet. Some of them may only be having their first 'brief escape' when they run into trouble. I don't know if things have changed but we were often counting our pennies when we were young to see if we had our money for our fares and to pay into the dancing. If you can't afford to buy drink then that is surely some sort of a deterrent?

The notion of increasing the price of alcohol doesn't appear to me to be 'knee jerk' but part of an approach to reducing heavy drinking with many doctors supporting the Scottish Government's aims. The argument seems to be that increased drinking has been fuelled by easy access to pocket money priced alcohol plus advertising campaigns aimed at young people.

The Scottish culture of heavy drinking has been around for a long, long time. I don't know how this can be changed? Anybody any ideas?

I'm not sure being unable to afford a drink is gonna be a deterrent because the culture has changed so much since we were hoarding the odd shilling to pay into the dancing, Pat.

Anyways, conscious that I've unwittingly gone off at a tangent on this thread, which was about teachers. So can I suggest we maybe continue the drink debate here; because there's a good thread going there on the topic this last coupla days;

http://www.glasgowwestend.co.uk/yabbse/ind...?showtopic=6886

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I've gone and done me knee in - at work - works fault - long story- torn ligament - going for compensashun - never claimed the compensashun before - won't bore you this year with the no doubt looong saga this'll turn out to be :rolleyes:

Anyone ever used the numerous Lawyers R Us cronies on TV?

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I've gone and done me knee in - at work - works fault - long story- torn ligament - going for compensashun - never claimed the compensashun before - won't bore you this year with the no doubt looong saga this'll turn out to be :lol:

Anyone ever used the numerous Lawyers R Us cronies on TV?

What a shame, IonaW. I hope you find a good lawyer to advice you and support your claim and in the meantime take it easy.

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A Diplomat ?

Was doon at the variety store and looked at the headline in the Globe and Mail (Toronna paper). Ken Taylor, the man credited with saving a number of US diplomats during the latter part of Jimmy Carter's presidency, was also a CIA agent, bureau chief in fact.

Does this diminish what he did, viz a viz the rescue ?

It certainly does for me, even though he probably had little choice regarding the CIA. His involvement with the cia came as a result of a deal between Carter and the Canadian PM, Joe Clarke.......not sure that there is an e on the end of his name but he may not know either.

Furstly am surprised at Carter. He may well have seen the deal as some sort of safety net for his own people but if there was a clear indication that those same people were in danger, he should have removed them: time does play a factor here, my thinking is that there was still time and conditions to allow the withdrawal of the US diplomatic staff.

Clarke had no business putting the Canadian Embassy directly intae the line of fire: i doubt the Iranian Ayatollah would have hesitated one second before bombing the Can. Embassy, had he known.

Actions by the CIA do not surprise me in the least. Think of the most feared groups of State security organization and the CIA and Mossad have to be neck and neck with Stassi, the KBG, Special Branch and many others.

tam

Jimmy certainly dropped a notch or two.............sad because my regard for him was very high,,,,a much maligned man who deserved much better than the US press gave him.

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I've gone and done me knee in - at work - works fault - long story- torn ligament - going for compensashun - never claimed the compensashun before - won't bore you this year with the no doubt looong saga this'll turn out to be :lol:

Anyone ever used the numerous Lawyers R Us cronies on TV?

Ouch Iona, that sounds sore.

Have you already formally written to your employer and included a doctor's certificate with your letter of complaint? Is there a Union rep you could get on your side?

Most bonafide employers have liability insurance that allows them to pay compensation directly if you have a reasonable claim that they're at fault. Sometimes they might offer less than what you believe you might get via the Telly advertisers, but they take a fee or a percentage commission off what they win for you.

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I've gone and done me knee in - at work - works fault - long story- torn ligament - going for compensashun - never claimed the compensashun before - won't bore you this year with the no doubt looong saga this'll turn out to be :lol:

Anyone ever used the numerous Lawyers R Us cronies on TV?

If experience out here is anything to go by keep clear of the TV lawyers here they say no win no fee. What they dont say is that they will charge huge fees for their winning services. Best bet is Union but keep an eye on them & check with a private lawyer for advice not for suing at this stage, leave that to the Union. Courts just aint worth it far too expensive. If not a Union member a lot of reputable lawyers here specialise in "Workers Compensation Cases" prob same there. Find one of them. Citizens advice bureau should be able to help on finding one. Dont be scared of asking for an estimate of fees!

Your employer's insurance company will try & minimise the payment so make sure you Union or lawyer is on the ball & that a private lawyer gives you advice on how much is generally paid out for that type of injury..

Good luck!!!

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